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Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

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BuckJr;2183886; said:
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Whoever did that, just earned awesome points.
 
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HilmerJ;2183643; said:
the kids on this years team have to pay the price for the guys who got tattoo's and sold their shit...

nobody on the outside of osu said..hey...those kids didn't do anything to get their bowl rights stripped, why do you punish them?

so when people say that the kids at psu don't deserve this, i say, yeah, your right, but fuck it..its just the way it is...niether do the kids at ohio state/usc/miami...

ok maybe the miami kids deserve it:biggrin:
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Please, please, please. Ohio State's penalties were never because some players got tattoos. They were never because the tattoos were free. The buckeyes were penalized because their coach lied to investigators concerning player association with the owner of a tattoo parlor.
 
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I'm listening to bob knight on mike and mike,

he is saying like a lot of people saying this is not a football issue, this is a courtroom issue....BUT

if the mens hockey team at Penn State had this happen at their shower, do you think they would have covered it up...fuck no...who cares about hockey?

this has everything to football....they let the little kids get raped for 14 years TO SAVE THE FUCKING FOOTBALL TEAM....WHAT THE FUCK DONT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND?


cincibuck;2183939; said:
Please, please, please. Ohio State's penalties were never because some players got tattoos. They were never because the tattoos were free. The buckeyes were penalized because their coach lied to investigators concerning player association with the owner of a tattoo parlor.
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ohh right right right...my bad..

those players individual actions only effect themselves and their eligibility....gotcha
 
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The more I think about it, the more "the NCAA is punishing innocent people with these sanctions" line of thought upsets me.

How exactly is anyone being punished?

The NCAA has given the players plenty of options to avoid these sanctions negatively affecting their athletic careers and if they choose not to exercise those options that is their problem.

So it seems to come down to innocent Penn State fans and students being "punished" by these sanctions.

If people think that not getting to watch Penn State play in a bowl game or that watching Penn State not be as good at football as they could have been is a punishment than they need to get their priorities straight, particularly with Sandusky's victims and the coverup in mind.

Getting molested by a creepy old man for a decade while the most powerful men in the community watch and do nothing to help you is a punishment.

Your favorite football team not being as good as you had hoped they would be and not getting to play in one game at the end of a twelve game season is not a punishment (even if you include the players).

That is a slight inconvenience for your favorite recreational past time. Punishment? Give me a break.

If the idea of the sanctions was to change the football first culture (it was made explicit that they were), based on the reactions and the cries over "punishing the innocent" that idea has clearly already failed miserably.
 
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Bucky Katt;2183656; said:
That attitude, in my IMO, continues to exemplify exactly what is wrong. There is no concession that the penalties, or any penalties at all, were deserved. There is no admission of guilt. There is no interest in right or wrong, fair or unfair. It's all about saving the program.
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Bingo! He should either shut up and do his job, or the NCAA should reconsider the punishment because the message is clearly not getting through, even at the very top of the academy.
 
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Taosman;2183983; said:
When the losses start, the cult will wither on the vine. They can't stand losing. They will get back to eating their own.
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I don't know. There were some lean years between 2000 and 2004 and the faithful still flocked to Beaver Stadium.

To your point, it will make a difference that the gatekeeper that was Joe Pa won't be there to hold back the angry mobs. The whole "we can't question Joe Pa" mentality won't be there for O'Brien after the sanctions are over.
 
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