Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

[Dryden]

Also EDSBS has been out of their depth. They are good at herp derping and making fun of hillbillies and midwesterners, but they are tone deaf when it comes to serious business.

Speaking of EDSBS, has Penn St caused the Fullmer Cup Scoreboard to explode?

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

"3,568 passing yards...."

For a career? Son, those should be per game numbers

 

[buckeyebri]

Maybe Mr. Staples' argument would have been undercut had you reminded him that the PSU players are free to transfer without sitting a year, and even don't count against a school's limit. What kid is being punished when he's got a free pass to move on?

The argument against this that I have heard is that there is no where for them to go. Of course, this can be argued back with the NCAA allowing for these players to transfer and not count against the scholarship limits.

 

[Oh8ch]

Originally Posted by Barry Switzer
Why are PSU fans and players penalized? What was there violation? Attending PSU?

The fans and players aren't being penalized. Nobody took away their football. September 1st they get to run out of the tunnel in the same nameless uniforms. The players still get the education they were promised.

What is gone is their ability to compete at the highest level and the money that comes with it. That is what the conspirators wanted to protect.

Harvard and Yale have football programs with many proud traditions. You are just more like those programs now.

Scream your heads off. Do a white out. Throw urine bags. Have a ball. Whatever PSU football means to you - go for it.

But to wail because getting caught harboring a pedophile has cost you your chance at the NC is to expose the cultural lie.

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

The argument against this that I have heard is that there is no where for them to go. Of course, this can be argued back with the NCAA allowing for these players to transfer and not count against the scholarship limits.

Exactly. Nowhere to go? the only 2 places I've heard that the NCAA isn't sure what to do with are USC and Ohio State. That, by my count, leaves 117 schools.

 

[jlb1705]

Maybe Mr. Staples' argument would have been undercut had you reminded him that the PSU players are free to transfer without sitting a year, and even don't count against a school's limit. What kid is being punished when he's got a free pass to move on?

I did. He didn't agree that it didn't constitute punishment nonetheless. He said that anything that "affects your life" is punishment. That's an awfully broad argument, but whatever. What can you do when somebody won't accept FACTS and EVIDENTS?

 

[jlb1705]

Speaking of EDSBS, has Penn St caused the Fullmer Cup Scoreboard to explode?

I think they only count crimes by players.

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

I did. He didn't agree that it didn't constitute punishment nonetheless. He said that anything that "affects your life" is punishment. That's an awfully broad argument, but whatever. What can you do when somebody won't accept FACTS and EVIDENTS?

Well, I suppose it was my mistake for assuming a "sports writer" would be reasonable and not just continue grinding his axe.

 

[Oh8ch]

I did. He didn't agree that it didn't constitute punishment nonetheless. He said that anything that "affects your life" is punishment. That's an awfully broad argument, but whatever. What can you do when somebody won't accept FACTS and EVIDENTS?

You'll wonder where the yellow WENTS
When you brush your teeth with EVIDENTS

(I have no idea why I needed to post that.)

 

[Muck]

Yep, it never happened because you refuse to believe it happened. I guess the youtube video where a pedtard threw a full can of beer at an OSU fan was all set up to make pedsters look bad.

These people absolutely refuse to open their eyes and look around.

Penn State fans say it's a myth because they can't figure out how someone could into a balloon.

The band member who originally mentioned the incident specifically said he saw a Penn State fan in the student section urinate into a bottle before hurling it into the band.

So yes it may be an urban myth that urine filled balloons were tossed but only because Penn State fans intentionally tried to obfuscate the fact that they were throwing urine filled bottles instead.

A couple of undeniable facts regarding that day...

Dr. Jon Woods (TBDBITL director at the time) stated that it was the worse fan atmosphere he had ever personally witnessed & questioned whether he would bring the band back to Happy Valley.

Penn State University officially issued an apology to Ohio State & Dr. Woods for the behavior of it's students.

BTW Dr. Woods happens to be an alumnus of Penn State University

Edit: Found one of the first hand accounts...

I was actually in the marching band for that ill fated trip to Happy Valley. It was the only time in my career there when I felt scared for my safety.

After visiting their brand new band center we lined up to march to their version of skull session (lamely titled "Tail-Great"). Heckled and harassed the whole way there, which is fine and not out of the ordinary for an away game. After a lame excuse for a pep rally ("when I say JoePa, you say Terno!" and When I say Go, you say go!") we lined up to march in to their stadium. Unfortunately the only route we could take to get to the proper entrance of the stadium was right through the tailgating section around Beaver stadium. It was a night game and these students had probably been drinking for 2 days. Not sure whose fault it was that we had to take a path straight through the drunk tank of college students, but I can only hope it's not that way anymore.

When we would go anywhere as a unit we would march to drum cadences, which unfortunately, is a super electromagnet to drunk frat boys. We soon became nearly completely enveloped by rabid fans pushing at us, throwing things at us (batteries, blow up dolls, footballs, food,unopened beer cans, pouring beers on people, and piss bombs) and trying to steal parts of our uniforms and instruments. There were sections where we literally had to push our way through crowds that were very aggressively pushing back.

We did make it to the stadium and tried to clean ourselves up as much as possible. Since it had been sprinkling all day we were informed that JoePa didn't want both band to march and tear up his precious field. Fine. But the Blue Band got to do their traditional pregame and we had to sit in the rainy stands and play songs to a white out crowd. Awesome. This also means that we didn't get to perform our halftime show, which included a double Script Ohio. The poor i-dotters didn't get to march their scripts, but instead we stood in the final formation and they both decided to do the strut to the top of the i, even though they were told not to.

Throughout the game, since I was a sousaphone player and sat in the back of the group, we had to constantly guard our equipment and uniform because
their fans were constantly attempting to swipe things from us. Our hats, berets, slide valves from our instruments, anything they could reach they would try and swipe. It got to the point we had to request some sort of security guards to be stationed behind us.

That game didn't turn out the way we wanted to (uggghhh) and we decided to pack up and leave with about a minute left in the game so we wouldn't be fighting against the drunken elated happy valley crew.

All this to say that I harbor a special pit of hatred in my soul for anything and everything that is associated with the Penn State University. 10/8/2005...May we never forget...

 

[alexhortdog95]

Penn State fans say it's a myth because they can't figure out how someone could into a balloon.

The band member who originally mentioned the incident specifically said he saw a Penn State fan in the student section urinate into a bottle before hurling it into the band.

So yes it may be an urban myth that urine filled balloons were tossed but only because Penn State fans intentionally tried to obfuscate the fact that they were throwing urine filled bottles instead.

A couple of undeniable facts regarding that day...

Dr. Jon Woods (TBDBITL director at the time) stated that it was the worse fan atmosphere he had ever personally witnessed & questioned whether he would bring the band back to Happy Valley.

Penn State University officially issued an apology to Ohio State for the behavior of it's students.

BTW Dr. Woods happens to be an alumnus of Penn State University

I could give a guess on how you'd pee into a balloon, but it would require a certain body part to fit.

Then again, since Joe Pa owns all down there, maybe he owned that in Happy Valley too?

 

[Oh8ch]

Penn State fans say it's a myth because they can't figure out how someone could into a balloon.

The band member who originally mentioned the incident specifically said he saw a Penn State fan in the student section urinate into a bottle before hurling it into the band.

So yes it may be an urban myth that urine filled balloons were tossed but only because Penn State fans intentionally tried to obfuscate the fact that they were throwing urine filled bottles instead.

A couple of undeniable facts regarding that day...

Dr. Jon Woods (TBDBITL director at the time) stated that it was the worse fan atmosphere he had ever personally witnessed & questioned whether he would bring the band back to Happy Valley.

Penn State University officially issued an apology to Ohio State for the behavior of it's students.

BTW Dr. Woods happens to be an alumnus of Penn State University

I am certainly among those whose attitude towards JoPa has changed the past several months. However, I first saw a crack in his facade during the weekend of that game.

I heard him on Sunday condemn any inappropriate PSU fan behavior.

However, on Saturday morning I had seen televised highlights of the Friday night PSU pep rally. Joe Pa was actually ridiculing OSU and wiggling his butt working the kids into a frenzy. He was no dummy.

 

[exhawg]

Exactly. Nowhere to go? the only 2 places I've heard that the NCAA isn't sure what to do with are USC and Ohio State. That, by my count, leaves 117 schools.

Don't forget Cal Tech. :p

 

[Saw31]

CentreDaily

Penn State President Erickson on NCAA sanctions: 'We had our backs to the wall on this'

Published: July 23, 2012 Updated 2 hours ago
By Chip Minemyer [email protected] ? State College - Centre Daily Times



Penn State president Rodney Erickson revealed that the university accepted the severe NCAA sanctions announced today to avoid the death penalty for the football program.

In an interview with the Centre Daily Times, Erickson said, "We had our backs to the wall on this. We did what we thought was necessary to save the program."

Joined by board of trustees chairwoman Karen Peetz and interim director of athletics David Joyner, Erickson said he signed the NCAA agreement because no better deal was available.

He said Penn State could have faced at least one year without football and still would have endured additional penalties.

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

"We had our backs to the wall on this. We did what we thought was necessary to save the program."

Better than having your face to the wall. :(