Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

[Taosman]

The relationships of the BOT to the university is so incestuous they will never change the culture established at Ped State. Outside forces will have to step up to the plate. But I wouldn't get my hopes up to high.

 

[Oh8ch]

You can't make this [Mark May] up:

In reference to giving up on Penn State if they take down the statue:

I'm in, already got a permit for the bonfire when I burn everything I have associated with PSU. I'm also done if they self impose the death penalty or anything close. And you can say we're not true fans or supporters or what ever BUT I stand behind my own principals before anything else.

Don't burn your stuff when kids are raped - only when they 'dis the coach. Nice principals.

 

[Delaware Buck]

http://deadspin.com/5927065/here-is-the-inevitable-photo-of-pedobear-posing-alongside-the-joe-paterno-statue?tag=joe-paterno#13426391259664&{"type":"iframeUpdated","height":570}

I'm surprised one of those mutants didn't put a musket ball right through Pedobear's hind quarter.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

So you're saying I SHOULDN'T go to Rhythmic Slappy Valley dressed as the PedoBear and have Bucky Katt drive (and abandon) me there?!

There was no need to tell pedobear about the mutants.
The poor bastard would see them soon enough.​

 

[calibuck]

Is anyone else having trouble with the association of loss of scholarships and/or death penalty to an asst coach committing a felony? How in the world can the NCAA rule on something out of their jurisdiction? Boy, I sure hope that the NCAA cannot show how Sandusky's being a pedophile gave Penn St an advantage on the football field......think about that potential Penn St recruits.

Lack of institutional control, maybe, but again, I cannot quite connect the dots between football operations and an illegal act.

On the FWIW side, taking down JoePa's statue for one bad judgement is probably the equal to firing Woody for his one bad judgement in punching the Clemson player. That has tarnished both coach's reputations and will for future references - their names will be used, but there will be an 'asterisk' when one speaks about them.......

If PEnn St gets the death penalty for Sandusky et al's actions, UMiami should for the reasons of utilizing hookers and boat rides to entice recruits. That is more of the NCAA's jurisdiction, not the other...


:gobucks3::gobucks4:

 

[Mike80]

Is anyone else having trouble with the association of loss of scholarships and/or death penalty to an asst coach committing a felony? How in the world can the NCAA rule on something out of their jurisdiction? Boy, I sure hope that the NCAA cannot show how Sandusky's being a pedophile gave Penn St an advantage on the football field......think about that potential Penn St recruits.

Lack of institutional control, maybe, but again, I cannot quite connect the dots between football operations and an illegal act.

On the FWIW side, taking down JoePa's statue for one bad judgement is probably the equal to firing Woody for his one bad judgement in punching the Clemson player. That has tarnished both coach's reputations and will for future references - their names will be used, but there will be an 'asterisk' when one speaks about them.......

If PEnn St gets the death penalty for Sandusky et al's actions, UMiami should for the reasons of utilizing hookers and boat rides to entice recruits. That is more of the NCAA's jurisdiction, not the other...


:gobucks3::gobucks4:

If there is one HUGE thing this scandal has shown us is there was a culture of covering crap up at Ped State.

There's a reason they have never been investigated - and it's not because that stupid old man and his minions never committed an NCAA infraction, it's because they never reported anything (i.e. covered it up) and then also neglected to have a centralized compliance office like the vast majority of other universities do.

The criminal acts Sandusky committed aren't the issue, even though the NCAA is in uncharted waters and may intend to make a precedent, but his crimes have opened up Pandora's Box for Ped State and the Ped Staters at large in that stupid state.

Fuck 'em all, they are only getting what they deserve. BTW taking down Pedterno's statue wouldn't be for "one bad judgment". He had 14 years of judgments to take care of this issue (if not longer) and did abso-fucking-lutely NOTHING.

Statues, while self-serving and honestly very stupid for a FOOTBALL COACH should be reserved for great men. Pedterno was NOT that.

That's a FACT.

 

[Oh8ch]

https://admin.xosn.com/fls/600/academics/PDFs/NCAAAcceptance.pdf?DB_OEM_ID=600

10.1 UNETHICAL CONDUCT
Unethical conduct by a prospective or enrolled student-athlete or a current or former institutional staff member (e.g., coach,
professor, tutor, teaching assistant, student manager, student trainer) may include, but is not limited to, the following:

The head football coach and athletic director -acting as agents of Penn State and in the course of their duties - participated in a cover up that allowed children to be raped.

While the list included in bylaw 10.1 includes activities that relate directly to the traditional NCAA bailiwick, I would suggest that to not include the above requires you to describe it as ethical conduct.

Not nearly the stretch that folks would have you believe.



It does not have to relate directly to any sort of competitive advantage - although that case can be made as well.

 

[Woody1968]

Is anyone else having trouble with the association of loss of scholarships and/or death penalty to an asst coach committing a felony? How in the world can the NCAA rule on something out of their jurisdiction? Boy, I sure hope that the NCAA cannot show how Sandusky's being a pedophile gave Penn St an advantage on the football field......think about that potential Penn St recruits.

Lack of institutional control, maybe, but again, I cannot quite connect the dots between football operations and an illegal act.

On the FWIW side, taking down JoePa's statue for one bad judgement is probably the equal to firing Woody for his one bad judgement in punching the Clemson player. That has tarnished both coach's reputations and will for future references - their names will be used, but there will be an 'asterisk' when one speaks about them.......

If PEnn St gets the death penalty for Sandusky et al's actions, UMiami should for the reasons of utilizing hookers and boat rides to entice recruits. That is more of the NCAA's jurisdiction, not the other...


:gobucks3::gobucks4:

Any sanctions would be based on the cover-up, not Sandusky's crimes.

 

[NightmaresDad]

Trick Daddy - The Childrens Song - YouTube

Well, I made it through 18 seconds.

Thanks, Loveland.
Now I have an ink pen sticking out of my ear and blood running down my neck.

 

[HorseshoeFetish]

Is anyone else having trouble with the association of loss of scholarships and/or death penalty to an asst coach committing a felony?

If PEnn St gets the death penalty for Sandusky et al's actions, UMiami should for the reasons of utilizing hookers and boat rides to entice recruits. That is more of the NCAA's jurisdiction, not the other...


:gobucks3::gobucks4:

The NCAA isn't going to throw down the hammer because of Sandusky. They will do it because an entire administration bowed to a head football coach and his decisions. Emmert said it best when he said it is a football scandal and so much more. It might be just my opinion but just because Joe Pa didn't consider something an infraction doesn't mean the NCAA will feel the same way. While the compliance dept at tOSU might have been a little lacking previous to our issues, at least we had one...it would appear that a PSU compliance dept was nonexistent at the best, or at the worst answered to JP.


A question for ORD..or anyone else who may know. When we reported our minor violations recently..did PSU report any? Have they ever?

 

[OSU_Buckguy]

Trick Daddy - The Childrens Song - YouTube

Well, I made it through 18 seconds.

Thanks, Loveland.
Now I have an ink pen sticking out of my ear and blood running down my neck.

18 seconds, eh? challenge #2:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wRXxJq5uK0"]"A Tribute to Joe Paterno" by Joey Welz - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Oh8ch]

18 seconds, eh? challenge #2:

Please come clean the vomit off my desk.

 

[Oh8ch]

The NCAA isn't going to throw down the hammer because of Sandusky. They will do it because an entire administration bowed to a head football coach and his decisions.

If Paterno had personally raped children while on vacation the NCAA would have little do say about it other than to ensure he was fired.

What invites the NCAA is the actions of the coach and AD as a coach and AD. That takes it from the realm of people acting as people to a university acting as a university.

 

[ulukinatme]

Saw this in a recent ESPN article:

Under Spanier, Penn State waged various legal and legislative battles to keep email, salary and other information private. The state's open records law has an exemption that lets Penn State and three other state-related universities keep their operations private despite the substantial taxpayer subsidies they receive.

All I have to say is....what? They receive substantial taxpayer cash, but they get to be treated like a private university? Thats some rubbish, and convenient.

 

[LightningRod]

You can't make this [Mark May] up:

In reference to giving up on Penn State if they take down the statue:

Quote:
I'm in, already got a permit for the bonfire when I burn everything I have associated with PSU. I'm also done if they self impose the death penalty or anything close. And you can say we're not true fans or supporters or what ever BUT I stand behind my own principals before anything else.

Don't burn your stuff when kids are raped - only when they 'dis the coach. Nice principals.

He is not in and doesn't stand behind his principals until he personally goes into that fire with his stuff.