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jlb1705;2178947; said:Freeh Report: Spanier went after Enis' agent for "fool(ing) around with the integrity of the university."
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2012/07/two_faces_of_penn_state_presid.html
That's a demon's resume.BB73;2178957; said:For Graham Spanier in 1998/1999:
Become aware of a football agent taking a PSU player on a $1,000 shopping trip in violation of NCAA rules = agent receiving "persona non grata" status and being banned from the University.
Become aware that a Defensive Coordinator showers with boys (one of whose mothers he told "I wish I were dead") = give the DC an unprecedented $168,000 severence package, emeritus status, and let him retain the ability to use the PSU facilities and bring kids into the shower room and on road trips to bowl games.
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if we are talking the "sports culture" - i think we are not nearly as psycho around our programs as many other schools. look at the last few years how we have all been hammering Paterno for not being competitive enough - and too much discipline v other schools. look at how many 4* players we lose because they wont tow the PSU line. these players would never have had troble at the other big time programs. we are no longer competitive because our coaches in all sports are much stricter. What culture is that?????
Elephant;2178956; said:Can you guys imagine the [Mark May] penn state fans and players are going to take this year at road games?
ORD_Buckeye;2178970; said:The ink hasn't dried on the Freeh report, and ped aggy is already looking down their nose at other schools.
and too much discipline v other schools.
TooTallMenardo;2178977; said:Favorite statement:
Just. stop.
ORD_Buckeye;2178983; said:If you go a little further down, one of the retards blames the janitors for putting JoePed up on a pedestal. JoePed forced out university vice presidents who threatened to shine a light on his program. What do you think the fate of those janitors would have been?
Spanier may still be indicted for his role in the Sandusky case, just as two of his lieutenants, athletic director Tim Curley and vice president Gary Schultz, already have been. He may wind up serving prison time. In the interim, let him serve as the prime example of NCAA hypocrisy, arguably the single worst administrator to ever try to control, shape and domineer intercollegiate athletics.
Spanier was the ultimate NCAA busybody. He sat on and later chaired the organization's Board of Directors, a position arguably more powerful than NCAA president. He was on the high-level NCAA management council. He chaired the BCS Oversight Committee.
He was everywhere over the last decade and a half, the epitome of the faceless bureaucrat that churns out all those lopsided NCAA rules and bizarre statutes in an effort to exert an iron grip on the system.
The NCAA is often vilified. It isn't the workers at the Indianapolis headquarters who deserve scorn. It's the Spanier types, the presidents and commissioners who write the rules one committee meeting at a time (usually from a Florida beachfront hotel).
He was a model of self-interest, distorted ethics and misplaced authority, much of it derived from the false concept that Penn State football operated on a higher ethical level than the rest of the country.
"He'd always lean on the Penn State thing," said one administrator who served alongside Spanier on NCAA committees. "He always made the Penn State part known. Like, 'Well, we do it within the rules and still win at Penn State, at Penn State football. Why can't you? Why lower the bar? What's wrong with you?' "
It was a lie and Graham Spanier knew it. Not just in the case of Sandusky. There's plenty more in the Freeh report. Incidents of the athletic department not following its own policies, not reporting potential violations, allowing head coach Joe Paterno's outsized influence on discipline and other issues. For years the school didn't even adhere to the federal Clery Act, which requires reporting crimes committed on campus.
Excuse me? Now the mutants are just plain making shit up.blion72
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if we are talking the "sports culture" - i think we are not nearly as psycho around our programs as many other schools.look at the last few years how we have all been hammering Paterno for not being competitive enough - and too much discipline v other schools. look at how many 4* players we lose because they wont tow the PSU line. these players would never have had troble at the other big time programs. we are no longer competitive because our coaches in all sports are much stricter. What culture is that?????
NFBuck;2179042; said:Excuse me? Now the mutants are just plain making shit up.
Nope, the report doesn't say that either, try again.
So, what does it say about Dear Leader, exactly?
...NFBuck;2179053; said::popcorn:
That guy is dug in.Not a heck of a lot. At least when you look at the "evidence" provided to back some of Freeh' outrageous claims.
The rest of the world is looking for some soul searching from the Penn State community. Maybe there is no soul to search, maybe football is really all there is at the core of the institution.