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Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

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OSU_Buckguy said:
okay. so i start looking at their "unclaimed titles." the first one i research is the most recent one: 1981.

psu goes 10-2. clemson goes 12-0 after beating georgia (who finishes #6), unc (who finishes #9), and nebraska in the orange bowl (who finishes #11).

yeah, psu clearly deserves championship recognition. i'm sure they were the victim of another anti-psu conspiracy waged by the writers and coaches.

i know that many programs claim dubious championships whose rationale fail when under the microscope. but, i mean, at least claim titles that have a shred of justification. i'd continue parsing through their other so-called unclaimed titles, but i doubt the findings would be much different.
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Didn't Reagan declare Clemson the NC before the bowls were played? This is a vast, vast conspiracy on many levels. I think there's some secret Book Of Fucking Penn State that gets passed to each president.

BTW, the best way to give that wikipedia page a proper Rogering is not to try and fight the cult with FAX and EVIDENTS! but rather to add every single year that they had a winning record. Go full Onion on their asses.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
Didn't Reagan declare Clemson the NC before the bowls were played? This is a vast, vast conspiracy on many levels. I think there's some secret Book Of Fucking Penn State that gets passed to each president.

BTW, the best way to give that wikipedia page a proper Rogering is not to try and fight the cult with FAX and EVIDENTS! but rather to add every single year that they had a winning record. Go full Onion on their asses.
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Can it be changed from "unclaimed national titles" to "pretty good years?"

Also, I find it awesome that whoever did the editing to put the unclaimed titles on there, left the entire section titled "2012 child sex abuse scandal" without adding "or whatever you want to call it."
 
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colobuck79 said:
They claim 1968. Nineteen. Fucking. Sixty. Eight.
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Undefeated #1 Ohio State played undefeated #2 USC in the Rose Bowl and won 27-16

#3 Penn State beat #6 Kansas by 1 point in the Orange Bowl.

#3 team always wins the NC in that situation

EDIT #1 OSU also defeated #1, #4 and #16 along the way. Kansas was the only ranked team PSU faced that season.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
Undefeated #1 Ohio State played undefeated #2 USC in the Rose Bowl and won 27-16

#3 Penn State beat #6 Kansas by 1 point in the Orange Bowl.

#3 team always wins the NC in that situation

EDIT #1 OSU also defeated #1, #4 and #16 along the way. Kansas was the only ranked team PSU faced that season.
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Joesus and crew weren't awarded national titles by the polls because they were the Boise State of their day. They didn't play anyone.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
Undefeated #1 Ohio State played undefeated #2 USC in the Rose Bowl and won 27-16

#3 Penn State beat #6 Kansas by 1 point in the Orange Bowl.

#3 team always wins the NC in that situation

EDIT #1 OSU also defeated #1, #4 and #16 along the way. Kansas was the only ranked team PSU faced that season.
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To expand upon your point, this is from my Penn State preview:
LordJeffBuck said:
National championships is another topic constantly on the minds of the Nittany Whiners. Specifically, the fact that Penn State was "screwed" out of national championships several times despite having a perfect record. The first alleged screw job occurred in 1968, when Penn State (11-0-0) finished #2 in the AP poll behind national champion Ohio State (10-0-0). As was typically the case prior to joining the Big Ten, in 1968 Penn State played a litany of mediocre East Coast independent schools (Army, Navy, Pitt, West Virginia, Boston College, Syracuse, Miami) plus a trio of foes from major conferences (Kansas State from the Big Eight; Maryland from the ACC; UCLA from the Pacific Eight). Penn State beat Big Eight co-champ Kansas in the Orange Bowl by the score of 15 to 14 on a last second touchdown and two-point conversion (aided by a penalty against the Jayhawks). For the season, the Nittany Lions' opponents had a combined record of 52-58-0 (.473 winning percentage) but just one of those opponents finished the year ranked in the final AP poll: Kansas (#7).

Ohio State, on the other hand, played its typical seven-game Big Ten slate (Purdue, Northwestern, Illinois, Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan State, Michigan) and a pair of non-coference foes (Oregon from the Pacific Eight and SMU from the SWC). Ohio State beat defending national champ Southern Cal (with Heisman Trophy winner O.J. Simpson) in the Rose Bowl (USC's home turf) by the score of 27 to 16. For the season, the Buckeyes' opponents had a combined record of 49-52-1 (.485 winning percentage) and four of those opponents ended the year ranked in the final AP poll: Southern Cal (#4); Purdue (#10); Michigan (#12); SMU (#14).

So in 1968, Ohio State played better overall competition (.485 winning percentage vs .473 winning percentage); played more ranked opponents (four vs one); and had a larger margin of victory (eleven points vs one point) against a better opponent (#4 Southern Cal vs #7 Kansas) in its bowl game. Is it really any surprise that the AP voters "screwed" Penn State in favor of the clearly superior team?
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EDIT: Penn State has two modern championships that are recognized by the NCAA - 1982 and 1986. In 1986, they finished the season with a perfect record and knocked off undefeated Miami in the Fiesta Bowl. They deserve that title.

In 1982 however, Penn State finished with an 11-1 record while the SMU "Pony Express" team finished #2 with an 11-0-1 record. Penn State is lucky that the voters were on their side in 1982, or they easily could've lost that title to SMU, which was arguably the better team.

In addition, in 1982 Penn State lost to Nebraska at home. Nebraska finished the season with a better record than Penn State (12-1) and a victory head-to-head, but finished 3rd in the AP poll. More voter bias in favor of Penn State.

See Woody's post below> Penn State lost to Alabama, 42-21, but still managed to win a national championship with a three-touchdown loss on their résumé. Go figure.
 
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LordJeffBuck said:
To expand upon your point, this is from my Penn State preview:


EDIT: Penn State has two modern championships that are recognized by the NCAA - 1982 and 1986. In 1986, they finished the season with a perfect record and knocked off undefeated Miami in the Fiesta Bowl. They deserve that title.

In 1982 however, Penn State finished with an 11-1 record while the SMU "Pony Express" team finished #2 with an 11-0-1 record. Penn State is lucky that the voters were on their side in 1982, or they easily could've lost that title to SMU, which was arguably the better team.

In addition, in 1982 Penn State lost to Nebraska at home. Nebraska finished the season with a better record than Penn State (12-1) and a victory head-to-head, but finished 3rd in the AP poll. More voter bias in favor of Penn State.
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Penn State beat Nebraska in 1982. Their loss was at Alabama. I can see how they would edge out SMU, as their season ended by beating #1 Georgia, while SMU tied Arkansas, and beat Pitt 7-3 in their bowl game.

Not defending Ped State - Boo Ped State!
 
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