I'm surprised McAndrew didn't use air quotes when referring to the alleged victims... or whatever you want to call them.
A few people try to act civilized:
At the end of the day, the only thing that will set MM free is the truth. Not money, and not privacy. Until the truth comes out and is verified, he will never know peace, no matter how big this settlement is.
We'll ignore whether anyone on this board would acknowledge the truth.
Many have judged MM for what he did and didn't do. I'm not one. If he gets a great settlement, good for him and his attorneys. If not, that would be a bit upsetting as I think forward to his life.
In the end, I'm just glad I'm not MM. I can't even begin to think what life is like "in his shoes".
He could relocate, but like "Cheers", everyone knows his name.
The majority of the world is made up of wonderful places where the people don't give a rat's ass about Paterno or Penn State. With the right settlement he can disappear and lead a happy peaceful life.
Which leads to this
EPC FAN said:
Bleep him. He left a boy with that monster. He should rot in bleeping hell. No matter what happened with anyone afterward, he failed at the crucial moment. He ran home to his Daddy. No hand waving or revisionist history will ever change that.
Fox Chapel Lion II said:
Beautifully stated and my feelings exactly.
I think we all know how MM's recollections of the night in question became so much more, shall we say, vivid - 10 years after the fact.
Hint? LEVERAGE.
But to be fair, if he really DID see what he now says he saw, then note EPC's description above. So which is it? Liar, or coward? Take your pick.
Nittany Ned2 said:
True.
If I were MM, my conscience would torment me until I released the full story, warts and all. Obviously, MM doesn't seem to be wired quite that way. By accepting the settlement he will be silenced forever and forever he will remain a pariah in the PSU community.
"Got Character?"
The irony in this verbiage is too much.
You will never, EVER hear this kind of rhetoric against Joe Pa.
You will almost never hear it said about the convicted child molester. You will see frequent, laborious debates over the exact nature of the nude horseplay with minors.
You will ALWAYS hear it about the whistle blower, MM, who was far from perfect, but hardly the worst of the 3 let alone the main target of justified wrath. He is, however, a perfect scapegoat if you wish to stick your head in the sand and willfully ignore everything that has happened to continue believing in a massive lie.
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baircub1! said:
I just don't feel the same...he ultimately told the Grand Jury that he " witnessed" Sandusky " raping" a child ( correct , yes?)... And then just went home...
Regardless of what the DA did or threatened Mike with...when the narrative all turned on Paterno...Mike never came out.... To my knowledge and said " Hey... That's BS... Joe was not at fault here... You have it all wrong IMO "
That's because the first part was something you desperately hoped was true about your fallen hero but is proven false with every sordid detail that comes out.
pandaczar12 said:
He either witnessed a child being abused and did nothing, or witnessed JoePa being unnecessarily thrown under the bus and did nothing. Maybe I'm missing something, but I see no other option. As they say, it's never too late to do the right thing.
Unless you tell your "boss" as the most powerful man in Happy Valley. Then you've done enough and more than done your part to stop the child raping, even though you continue to hear whispers about the rapist.
The thing is, it's not as if McQueary was some wimp of a kid, and Jerry was some kind of Mike Tyson character. Gerry was a 60 year old man, of what looks to be about average size and strength for his age, while Mike was 6'5" tall and about 230 pounds. It's not as if he couldn't have walked into that shower and physically restrained Sandusky. Hell at minimum, it's not as if Sandusky was going to kick his behind if he called the cops right there and then, like EVERY OTHER RATIONAL HUMAN ON EARTH would have done.
It's not the 60 year old rapist that is more powerful than young, muscular McQ. It's the Don lording over the entire experiment.
I'll go one further: How does ANYONE who then hears it from Mike, NOT call the cops themselves. When it finally got to Joe, Joe called his friend the cop Gary Schultz, which was the right thing to do. Why didn't ANYONE ELSE do that?
So someone witnesses the worst thing imaginable and he knows to race to Joe. Yup, no cultural problem here.
That's the whole thing that makes the entire scenario hard to believe. Mike is/was a giant. Sandusky was an old guy. Mike is apparently not the greatest guy in the world, but no rational human stands by and lets a kid get raped.
Either Mike didn't see anything of the sort, or else he's the biggest coward imaginable. There is no middle ground.
Clearly not. There's no world in which Joe rules above them all for decades on end.
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@kinch
Exactly. I don't actually give a shit how many times he changes his story, and he's changed it, what, five times at last count? Any way you slice it, either he lied about seeing anything at all, or, he is a heartless, cruel, piece of shit. I ain't buying the coward thing: The guy towers over Sandusky and Sandusky at that point had begun to resemble a somewhat frail older man.
Either he made the whole thing up, or he didn't properly resemble what type of nude horseplay was happening with little boys. They didn't fully get there, but they do frequently. It's a hideous place of groupthinking.
