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Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

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Joe Pa Thetic said:
No link to this because the EVIDENTS disappeared off of BWI, but the Cult was giddy in several different threads at finally learning the identity of long-term Cult antagonist CruisingRoute66. The Cult listed the guy's name, his LinkedIn account, pictures of his house and were trying to mobilize support to flood people who do business with CR66 with messages about why they should boycott him. I saw a post from BoT member Anthony Lubrano in which Lubrano claims to have contacted CR66 to express a hope that he will at least still post on BWI.

I have just seen passing mentions to the identity of CR66 in which various Cult members were celebrating like they had just won the national championship and other Cultists were asking stark questions about whether or not it was "over the line" to post a picture of CR66's home. The Cult was absolutely pissing themselves at learning the identity of CR66. I can only imagine how giddy they would have been had Tug Speedwell's identity fallen into their hands.
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Yep --- they really are giddy about "outing" CR66. I wouldn't put it beyond one of those jag-offs (say, 9fold) to do something like open a Credit Card in his name and rack up $40,000 in debt.

Lubrano and CR66 did meet on Saturday (Penn State's spring game), and Lubrano has some "communication" between the two from July 2012 that he is going to share on BWI on Thursday. Build the excitement!!!

Unfortunately, a few posters there know who I am too. One does need to watch the information they pass along online, even if the information seems minor. My "clues" were the high school that I graduated from in Metro Detroit, my PSU major, and where I now live. Unfortunately, not too many (a) folk from my High School do their undergraduate work at Penn State, (b) in a relatively obscure and specialized major, and (c) then wind up living in Cincinnati.
 
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MtNittany on BWI said:
After the past 4.5 years, I've developed a rather simple rule. You disparage JVP or his legacy, and I will either ignore you or come after you like Buford T. Justice - depending on how public you make your ignorance/jealousy/hatred. CR fits squarely into the latter category and deserves everything that has been piled on him and then some.
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I'm legitimately afraid to live among these "people" sometimes.
 
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Remember the crazy nut job who wanted to find ORD and fight face to face over Tug Speedwell? :lol:

These idiots are seriously unhinged as a collective, let alone as individuals. But yeah, there's 0 culture problem. All fine and dandy, normal fan behavior.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
I'm legitimately afraid to live among these "people" sometimes.
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I'm afraid that I share the same species name with those "people".

scarletmike said:
Remember the crazy nut job who wanted to find ORD and fight face to face over Tug Speedwell? :lol:

These idiots are seriously unhinged as a collective, let alone as individuals. But yeah, there's 0 culture problem. All fine and dandy, normal fan behavior.
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Hey, when you can graduate 90% of your players (or whatever that statistic is that they love to point out), you can enjoy the same culture problem. Seriously - does anyone even look at their course load? I haven't, so maybe this point is moot. But do their players take classes? Maybe they have their own UNC scandal to explain? Do their players get graded fairly? What about the rumor that the players who weren't going to graduate transferred to satellite campuses, so they didn't effect Penn State's graduation rates?
 
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Not the football program, but...

Farley, then a Penn State freshman, said her short time on the Penn State women’s gymnastics team made her severely depressed. Her coaches, Jeff and Rachelle Thompson, made her practice with an injured knee and constantly demeaned her for not being able to fully train while it healed, Farley said.

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Farley said Rachelle, the associate head coach, told her “Your father would not be proud of you,” knowing that Farley’s father had died a few years prior. She said Jeff, the head coach, then started to mock her about how she wouldn’t be able to pay for her tuition without a scholarship.

http://www.collegian.psu.edu/features/article_d0ae8e90-051f-11e6-aa96-0b85cc3a2ad0.html
 
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Zurp said:
I'm afraid that I share the same species name with those "people".



Hey, when you can graduate 90% of your players (or whatever that statistic is that they love to point out), you can enjoy the same culture problem. Seriously - does anyone even look at their course load? I haven't, so maybe this point is moot. But do their players take classes? Maybe they have their own UNC scandal to explain? Do their players get graded fairly? What about the rumor that the players who weren't going to graduate transferred to satellite campuses, so they didn't effect Penn State's graduation rates?
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All questions that I've always had and have never seen answered. I never thought of a school graduating students instead of students graduating from the school. These people, in their rush to anoint Paterno as the greatest human ever, have decided that he alone graduated all of these players.....and of course it was all 400 level classes that even Steven Hawking would struggle at.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
All questions that I've always had and have never seen answered. I never thought of a school graduating students instead of students graduating from the school. These people, in their rush to anoint Paterno as the greatest human ever, have decided that he alone graduated all of these players.....and of course it was all 400 level classes that even Steven Hawking would struggle at.
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As you know, PSU had an Athletics Integrity Monitor on-campus during the July 2012 - December 2015 time period. I seriously doubt, given that environment, the answers to Zurp's 2nd through 4th questions would be anything besides "yes', "no", and "yes." But who knows.

Zurp's 5th question --- given that I post on BWI and also visit other college football message boards, I've heard an incredible amount of rumors!! But I must admit: I've never heard that particular rumor before. The APR is a published statistic. If someone starts at PSU --- or any other FBS football institution --- but doesn't get a 4-year degree from somewhere or other, it will ding the school's APR. So, to keep the APR up, he will need to graduate from somewhere. If one can find an instance of a PSU football player who didn't graduate from University Park but did graduate from one of the handful of branch campuses that offers 4-year degrees, that would be a data point to support the rumor. Is there such a data point? If that data point exists, how does the APR look upon that data point?

Zurp's 1st question --- I have no illusions. Penn State football students, no doubt, do not take as challenging a course load as the normal undergraduate. There's a reason many football players are Kinesiology majors. The better the college football player, the less likely he is to have a strong desire to "play school." Is what it is.

Anyway, now you have "seen these questions answered." :cheers:
 
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409fold said:
As you know, PSU had an Athletics Integrity Monitor on-campus during the July 2012 - December 2015 time period. I seriously doubt, given that environment, the answers to Zurp's 2nd through 4th questions would be anything besides "yes', "no", and "yes." But who knows.

Zurp's 5th question --- given that I post on BWI and also visit other college football message boards, I've heard an incredible amount of rumors!! But I must admit: I've never heard that particular rumor before. The APR is a published statistic. If someone starts at PSU --- or any other FBS football institution --- but doesn't get a 4-year degree from somewhere or other, it will ding the school's APR. So, to keep the APR up, he will need to graduate from somewhere. If one can find an instance of a PSU football player who didn't graduate from University Park but did graduate from one of the handful of branch campuses that offers 4-year degrees, that would be a data point to support the rumor. Is there such a data point? If that data point exists, how does the APR look upon that data point?

Zurp's 1st question --- I have no illusions. Penn State football students, no doubt, do not take as challenging a course load as the normal undergraduate. There's a reason many football players are Kinesiology majors. The better the college football player, the less likely he is to have a strong desire to "play school." Is what it is.

Anyway, now you have "seen these questions answered." :cheers:
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TL;DR but I notice the first date was after the Paterno "success with honor" era. How convenient.
 
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409fold said:
As you know, PSU had an Athletics Integrity Monitor on-campus during the July 2012 - December 2015 time period. I seriously doubt, given that environment, the answers to Zurp's 2nd through 4th questions would be anything besides "yes', "no", and "yes." But who knows.

Zurp's 5th question --- given that I post on BWI and also visit other college football message boards, I've heard an incredible amount of rumors!! But I must admit: I've never heard that particular rumor before. The APR is a published statistic. If someone starts at PSU --- or any other FBS football institution --- but doesn't get a 4-year degree from somewhere or other, it will ding the school's APR. So, to keep the APR up, he will need to graduate from somewhere. If one can find an instance of a PSU football player who didn't graduate from University Park but did graduate from one of the handful of branch campuses that offers 4-year degrees, that would be a data point to support the rumor. Is there such a data point? If that data point exists, how does the APR look upon that data point?

Zurp's 1st question --- I have no illusions. Penn State football students, no doubt, do not take as challenging a course load as the normal undergraduate. There's a reason many football players are Kinesiology majors. The better the college football player, the less likely he is to have a strong desire to "play school." Is what it is.

Anyway, now you have "seen these questions answered." :cheers:
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As 86 has said, these claims go back to Paterno being the only one to do it the right way.....going back to whenever he first started coaching. The constant fellating of all of Paterno's players graduating with highest honors because Penn State and Paterno are the only entities in the world who care about the student part of student athlete. It gets old. So I don't really have answers.

1. We can both agree, and reasonable fans of every college football team should agree, a hefty majority of college football players have easier classes than the normal student. Especially ones who are destined for the NFL. The rules say they only have to stay eligible.....it's not like they need that 4.0 in their core classes to get a good accounting job out of college.
2, 3, 4. Even UNC got away with shit for a long time. I'm not saying Penn State has their own UNC going on.....but I'm not stupid enough to believe it's not possible a player at any big time college gets away with things that are probably against rules. Schools cheat. All the time. It's nearly impossible to catch. I'm not accusing Penn State of anything that I don't think also goes on at Ohio State. But I'm not an idiot on BWI who thinks every single Penn State player is in the top percentile of every class they take.
5. I've heard this rumor, probably just from here. I have no way of knowing if it happened. But again.....we're talking about several decades ago. If it happened recently, it would be easily verified and stamped out by the toothless NCAA. Then they'd probably walk back any punishment they gave Penn State, because of course they would.
 
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