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Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

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sparcboxbuck;2170339; said:
I think payment should include forfeiting every W during which Jer had a kid in the facilities.
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As well as taking a portion of the funds from JoePeds retirement, IMO. That guy should be held culpable for at least every case after the McQuery incident, if not before..
 
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Taosman;2170412; said:
With the disclosure of the involvement of the university president,vice and athletic director, how could this not be a case of lack of institutional control?
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plus 2 assistants testifying that showering with children was not abnormal at PSu. NCAA should do something good for once and investigate.
 
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Penn State's reputation, image soiled by Jerry Sandusky scandal

Now the attention turns to Penn State University.
Penn State, the place where a pedophile was caught three times showering with kids on campus, and three times got away with it.

Penn State, where some of the biggest public relations blunders led to national criticism that it?s a place full of idol worshipers and rioters. Penn State, where inevitable scars are still gaping wounds.
With Jerry Sandusky found guilty on 45 counts of child sexual abuse, the focus of the scandal turns to who at Penn State knew what and when they knew it.
And, how did a university with so much prestige get into a situation that has done so much damage to its integrity?
The Sandusky trial answered few of these questions.
Prosecutor Joe McGettigan even said in his opening statements that Penn State was not on trial.
Answers the Nittany Lions hopeful long for are more likely to come from a report that former FBI Director Louis Freeh?s investigators ? hired by Penn State ? are set to release in late summer or fall.
Several people interviewed by the investigators have told The Patriot-News the questions seemed centered on the workings of the athletic department and former head football coach Joe Paterno.
They?ve interviewed people going as far back as Bryce Jordan, the 87-year-old Texas resident who was university president from 1983 to 1990.
And they have recovered emails once thought to be lost during technology upgrades that are said to show conversations between administrators.
The attorney general?s office in court filings said the emails show that former President Graham Spanier was involved in the decision not to tell police about an allegation made against Sandusky in 2001.
The release of the Freeh report will come as Penn State tries to maintain its football legacy in a post-Paterno era with new coach Bill O?Brien.
It will come just short of a year from when the reputation of the university was challenged and the president and head football coach ? both highly regarded as among the best nationally in their respective positions ? were fired. When two Penn State officials ? Athletic Director Tim Curley and Vice President Gary Schultz ? were charged with perjury and failure to report an incident brought to them in 2001.
And it will come as speculation mounts that Spanier ? the university?s rock star former leader ? could join Curley and Schultz and be charged with ignoring early signs of what was to come.
Spanier the ?magician?
In the hours after a grand jury presentment was released in November 2011 alleging heinous crimes by the former assistant football coach and criminal inaction by the two administrators, Spanier told his board of trustees not to worry.
?We deal with crisis every day at this university,? trustees, during an interview with The New York Times, recalled Spanier saying. ?We won?t have a problem with this.?
Spanier had just crafted a statement of ?unconditional support? for the charged administrators.


It was the beginning of the end of Spanier?s reign at PSU. Until that point, the board ? whose makeup included former and current high-ranking members of major U.S. corporations ? had become used to rubber-stamping Spanier?s decisions.
On paper, they were his boss, but Spanier called the shots.
Several of the 32 members of the board were serving in 2001, when former assistant coach Mike McQueary made the allegations that a jury believes are criminal, but Penn State administrators allegedly ignored.
But there is no indication that the board was ever told McQueary?s story back then.
There is an indication, however, that the feds want to know how much they knew. A subpoena from the Department of Justice requested records of any payments by board members to the university or to third parties on the university?s behalf.
Many of them weren?t aware that the ongoing three-year investigation into Sandusky had been reported by The Patriot-News. They didn?t know Paterno, Schultz and Curley had testified before the grand jury.
Spanier testified, too. The summary of his testimony, in the initial 23-page grand jury report outlining charges against Sandusky, noted that before Spanier answered any questions, he talked about his extensive responsibilities as president and his educational background in sociology and marriage and family counseling.
?Remember, Spanier fancies himself as a magician. He does these little tricks, plays the washboard, wears the lion suit. He sees himself as a president rock star,? said a professor emeritus, who worked within the administration for many years and saw many presidencies.
The professor, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to protect his job, said he saw Penn State morph under Spanier?s reign, from a place where integrity was the most important value to a place where growth and power were the bottom line.
And Penn State saw a lot of growth. Construction on campus was a continual process with new buildings and facilities opening regularly. It was under Spanier that Penn State acquired a law school ? Dickinson School of Law in Carlisle.
?He was at a major public research university for so long. And that?s unusual these days, especially at the level and institution he was at,? said Jeffrey J. Selingo, vice president and editorial director for The Chronicle of Higher Education, who wrote a profile on Spanier in 2001.
?Those people tend to move around a lot because they are highly sought after,? he said.
But Spanier was president just two months shy of 16 years, and, as a result, he built up a lot of good will with institutional leaders elsewhere.
He had so many interests that he was on a broad range of task forces and boards for land grant colleges, technology, sports and national security issues.
He was involved in the NCAA and was recently recruited for the job of NCAA president. The job eventually went to Mark Emmert.
?He was incredibly well-known,? Selingo said. ?There are very few presidents out there, beyond a handful, that people can name, and he was one of them. There?s a dozen of those where you walk around in higher-education circles, say the name and you make the connection. He was one of those.?
Maybe that?s how he was able to get a temporary job so quickly with the Department of Defense after being forced out at Penn State.
Penn State said Spanier will still return to the university in the spring to teach.
Spanier?s departure was part of one of the biggest scandals in higher education, and his name hasn?t completely been cleared of wrongdoing.
He recently sued the university, trying to get emails, found after he left, that were once thought to have been lost. The emails show he was a big part of the discussion on how to deal with the 2001 allegation McQueary made against Sandusky, according to court documents.
Prosecutors in the Curley and Schultz case said in a court filing to bolster the perjury charges that Spanier and Schultz had exchanged emails saying it wouldn?t be ?humane? to report Sandusky.
Until that was released, the only participation Spanier had admitted to was authorizing Schultz?s decision to ask Sandusky to stop bringing kids to campus.
There had been speculation about his involvement, however, since charges were filed in November.
Here?s why.
Attorney General Linda Kelly had made a distinct difference when she talked about the role of Paterno and Spanier in the Sandusky case.
She cleared Paterno from potential legal ramifications. Spanier is still under investigation, she said.
The Patriot-News also later learned that a prominent area doctor had a conversation with Schultz several weeks after McQueary made the report, and Schultz told him that Spanier had met with Sandusky himself.
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NFBuck;2170163; said:
Wonder how much that $1.8 billion endowment is gonna be drained...
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I'm not sure that it can be. If somebody donated $x for a scholarship for business students or a Chair in the history department, the university is legally obligated to use the interest from those funds to fund their intended purpose. If Ped Aggy uses endowment funds, they'll have another round of lawsuits from their donors.

My guess is that some combination of their insurance policies, state appropriations and operating capital will need to be used.
 
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They are all going to prison. They all lied to a Grand Jury. And notice how Paterno continues to be "protected". But E-mails could end up dragging him in because you know they had to have talked to him. Jezzus! What a complete apocalypse for the university they will have created! All the glory and reputation they and Paterno created will wear a red
"P". And maybe that's how it should be for hiding such heinous crimes.
 
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The one question I have is, now that the trial has handed down a verdict, why doesn't "Outside the Lines", George Dohrmann, Yahoo! Sports and others all turn Happy Valley upside down and search everything?

Too busy searching for stories on rigged raffles a few decades ago?
 
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VBSJ;2170483; said:
The one question I have is, now that the trial has handed down a verdict, why doesn't "Outside the Lines", George Dohrmann, Yahoo! Sports and others all turn Happy Valley upside down and search everything?

Too busy searching for stories on rigged raffles a few decades ago?
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that one is simple.

they had to dig to make the OSU story a big one.
nothing was on the surface, and even what was known publicly wasn't a huge deal.

so you have to investigate to hype up the story to draw viewers during what is typically a slow period in the sports world.


this story is HUGE on its own without the extra digging.
prosecutors and the FBI have already uncovered and released anything OTL would be capable of finding.
 
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VBSJ;2170483; said:
The one question I have is, now that the trial has handed down a verdict, why doesn't "Outside the Lines", George Dohrmann, Yahoo! Sports and others all turn Happy Valley upside down and search everything?

Too busy searching for stories on rigged raffles a few decades ago?
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Still waiting on Dohrmann or any so-called reputable media source to look into what happened at Notre Dame with the sexual assault scandal (cover-up?) and the negligent homicide of a videographer.

But, again, that's nothing when compared to free tattoos and 25-year-old anonymously sourced rigged raffles. And, also, Dohrmann went to Notre Dame. So there's that.
 
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BuckJr;2170419; said:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=157&f=1395&t=9095337

A good poster on the PSU site says this is just beginning, seems to to be in the know.
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I tried clicking on the link but apparently the post has been taken down.

The OSU scout site supposedly has a copy and paste which as of right now cannot be verified. I didn't catch the name of the poster either.

Is what it is. My children, twins, and their graduation party today. a friend was one of the investigators on this case. there will be from 11 - 30 more victims coming forward. Sandusky had little asterisks behind the names of the victims.

Spanier, Baldwin, Curley, Schultz ,and Joe Paterno were all complicit in a cover up. Joe was mentioned in emails. Sandusky was forced out and they all knew why. Bradley and Ganter perjured themselves on the stand. thank God they hired outside. And my friend mentioned if he was not dead Paterno would be arrested. the BOT is right. Joyner is right, and Corbett is right.

It was as bad as the worst accusations. I know this fellow for fifteen years and trust him implicitly. I will answer questions from moderators in pms, but no one else. This stuff might or might not come out, but this person is privy to all the emails, evidence and such. He was actually on television last night when Sandusky came out of the courthouse.

I was at a function today where I had this conversation. I willl not respond more to this thread, only to mo"


 
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