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Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

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AJHawkfan said:
Check this out: http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/in...ears_later_ray_gricars_di.html#incart_m-rpt-2

10 years since Ray Gricar went missing.

From the BWI thread: https://bwi.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=36&tid=180011865&mid=180011865&sid=890&style=2

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Maybe the cult is finally starting to see the light.....
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Found this comment interesting. Wonder how solid the info is:

David Grine hires Gricar.

David Grine bends rules for Sandusky adoption.

Gricar ignores two victims of Sandusky and doesn't press charges in 1998.

Gricar goes missing in 2005

David Grine declares Gricar dead in 2011 mere months before Sandusky is arrested.

David Grines son is now ruling on Sandusky/Penn St matters (and being asked to recuse himself).

Who knows where Ray is? Nobody. If you want to find out Gricars connection to Penn St though one need no more than David Grine and Fran Gantner under oath.
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AJHawkfan said:
Maybe the cult is finally starting to see the light.....
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He's saying he didn't realize how corrupt the BOT and 2nd Mile were, how deep the conspiracy went etc.

He isn't doubting Joesus. Never that.

If anything they spin it to make him even more the Christ-like victim of an ever more powerful-in-the-retelling cabal of evil men.

Poor simple, good hearted old Joe was the real victim here.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
He's saying he didn't realize how corrupt the BOT and 2nd Mile were, how deep the conspiracy went etc.

He isn't doubting Joesus. Never that.
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I guess I read his comment about a "husband and wife running the show" as a reference to Joesus & Sue. Maybe that was directed toward someone else?

They're slowing evolving their stance from "there was no cover up" to "there apparently was a cover up, but Joesus wasn't involved" Is that progress?
 
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Jaxbuck said:
He's saying he didn't realize how corrupt the BOT and 2nd Mile were, how deep the conspiracy went etc.

He isn't doubting Joesus. Never that.

If anything they spin it to make him even more the Christ-like victim of an ever more powerful-in-the-retelling cabal of evil men.

Poor simple, good hearted old Joe was the real victim here.
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or whatever you want to call him.
 
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AJHawkfan said:
I guess I read his comment about a "husband and wife running the show" as a reference to Joesus & Sue. Maybe that was directed toward someone else?

They're slowing evolving their stance from "there was no cover up" to "there apparently was a cover up, but Joesus wasn't involved" Is that progress?
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He is referencing TSM director Jack Raykovitz and his wife. The BWI theory is that Curley and Schultz reported the shower incident to Jack which technically fulfilled the mandatory reporting requirement and thus both are wrongly accused by the state. However, there has never been any documented proof that Jerry was reported to anyone much less someone that had no jurisdiction over what happened in the shower at Pedo U. Also BWI likes to reference Jack Raykovitz as Jerry's boss when in fact Jerry started TSM and had no "boss" and didn't report to anyone. Eerily similar to how Joe Ped had no real "boss"
 
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Jaxbuck said:
He's saying he didn't realize how corrupt the BOT and 2nd Mile were, how deep the conspiracy went etc.

He isn't doubting Joesus. Never that.

If anything they spin it to make him even more the Christ-like victim of an ever more powerful-in-the-retelling cabal of evil men.

Poor simple, good hearted old Joe was the real victim here.
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Actually, he is pissed off at the rest of them for not supporting him for BOT.
 
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