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Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

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Mike80 said:
I wonder how long they'll let that poll go....it seems that their desired result isn't quite as popular as they want it to be :lol:
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It's already not letting me vote.

OCBucksFan said:
It's funny how they claim they are the best int he B1G, then in the same breath want to move to the powerhouse known as the ACC.
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From their perspective, Ohio State, Michigan, Nebraska, and Wisconsin are all "football factories". After those four teams, Penn State IS the best. Of course, what teams are left? Purdue? Indiana? I doubt they consider Michigan State, since Michigan State has had some recent success - they are probably also a "football factory" now. So, congratulations, Penn State: you're #1 in a conference with Illinois, Minnesota, and Rutgers. And being in the Big Ten is a constant reminder that Joe Paterno never would have gotten to 409 if he had been in the Big Ten his entire career.

Edit: Wow. I just did the math. Paterno was 409-136-3 in his career, and 95-54 (0.638) in the Big Ten. He had been coaching 27 years prior to joining the Big Ten. He was 247-67-3 (0.784) prior to joining the Big Ten. Take out 8 games per year for each of the years from 1966 to 1992, and apply the 0.784 to the remaining 2-5 games (depending on the year). For those 101 "non-conference" games, Penn State would have won 78.18 and lost 21.82. (I made ties into 1/2 win, 1/2 loss for these calculations.) Then, the remaining 8 games each year (216 games total), apply the 0.638 percentage, and we get 137.72 wins and 78.28 losses. The total record for that time period would be 217 wins, 100 losses. 30 fewer losses than he really got. Add in the 162 wins and 69 losses Penn State had under Joe Paterno from 1993 to 2011, and you get 379 wins, 169 losses.

How long would it have taken Penn State to win 30 more games? At his 0.692 win percentage, it would have taken 43.3 more games. At 13 games per season, 3-1/3 more seasons.
 
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I think that Taos is saying that he thinks Hackenberg should have transferred. Maybe before his sophomore year? To where - I don't know.
Anyway, that's what I took from Taos's post.

I don't know why it's in this thread, other than that someone was praising the Buckeye offensive line in those last few games, and somehow we shifted to talking about a team with a bad line but a good quarterback (Penn State).
 
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Zurp said:
This thread has become a "2014 was awesome" thread. So, I'll continue that.
I count 8 night games for Ohio State this year: Virginia Tech, Illinois, Cincinnati, Michigan State, Penn State, BTCG (Wisconsin), Sugar Bowl (Alabama), NCG (Oregon)
Am I missing any?
Is there a record for number of night games in a year by a team?
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If it isn't, the record is probably held by LSU. In the 50s they played many of their home games at night, often on Fridays. Remember listening to a game in our family car in Dayton on a Friday. Might have been on WLW, but I think it was a NOLA station with a strong signal at night and beamed north. Billy Cannon was having a great game for the Tigers. Pretty sure they weren't the only SEC team with a penchant for night games in September and October. On the other hand, those teams only played 10 games max, plus a bowl game.
 
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Zurp said:
I think that Taos is saying that he thinks Hackenberg should have transferred. Maybe before his sophomore year? To where - I don't know.
Anyway, that's what I took from Taos's post.

I don't know why it's in this thread, other than that someone was praising the Buckeye offensive line in those last few games, and somehow we shifted to talking about a team with a bad line but a good quarterback (Penn State).
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Or maybe he's going back to Hack sticking with his commitment before his freshman year. I think he had the option to leave because of the firing of Joesus.

Opps! then I did the math. Hack arrived for year two of Buttchin Bob - when he (BOB) left that may have given Hack the chance to go.
 
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I believe Hack could have transferred under this rule.

NCAA Transfer Exceptions

The one-time transfer exception is the most commonly used exception for transfers from one four-year college to another, especially if the transfer involves two colleges in NCAA Division I or II.

The exception is that an athlete can transfers to a Football Championship Subdivision (FCS or I-AA) school and use this exception provided he or she has at least two seasons of competition remaining. In Division II, any sport may use the one-time transfer exception.

If I understand this right he could have gone FCS or 1-AA?

http://www.athleticscholarships.net/ncaa-transfer-rules.htm
 
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cincibuck said:
If it isn't, the record is probably held by LSU. In the 50s they played many of their home games at night, often on Fridays. Remember listening to a game in our family car in Dayton on a Friday. Might have been on WLW, but I think it was a NOLA station with a strong signal at night and beamed north. Billy Cannon was having a great game for the Tigers. Pretty sure they weren't the only SEC team with a penchant for night games in September and October. On the other hand, those teams only played 10 games max, plus a bowl game.
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Urban is all in on night games so expect to see a lot of night games in the future. It's all about "brand" promotion.
 
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Taosman said:
I believe Hack could have transferred under this rule.

NCAA Transfer Exceptions

The one-time transfer exception is the most commonly used exception for transfers from one four-year college to another, especially if the transfer involves two colleges in NCAA Division I or II.

The exception is that an athlete can transfers to a Football Championship Subdivision (FCS or I-AA) school and use this exception provided he or she has at least two seasons of competition remaining. In Division II, any sport may use the one-time transfer exception.

If I understand this right he could have gone FCS or 1-AA?

http://www.athleticscholarships.net/ncaa-transfer-rules.htm
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How would that have helped him? Anyone can drop down a level and keep playing. That's not an ideal path for a top draft pick.

There's also the matter of displaying the same flaws as a true frosh that were ignored because of his age. It wasn't the offense that caught up with him. It was the pattern of his decision making.

That includes choosing Penn State in the first place.
 
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