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SloopyHangOn;1837117; said:
My goal was to simply trim up and fit in my clothes better (much like yours) and I essentially lost about 30lbs of bloat and fat and gained about 10lbs of muscle in the first 8 weeks. I'm on my way to day 90 and am pretty stoked about the results. Admittedly, I haven't yet streamlined my diet to perfection but simply getting it pointed in the right direction has elicited results.

Congrats... Dieting is a give and take process imo. Don't get me wrong diet is a big part of life. It is a highly moderate statement to say it's annoying to me. I've also been strength training for 16 years,and although you can tell someone "diet is everything" experiencing changes over time is the only thing that could make me change my food lifestyle.

About 8 months into working out I was still progressing in gains,but was still fat. This coming from someone who was drinking cans of pepsi in between exercises.

With exercise,you see somewhat instant results. You feel sore and know you did something. A little time passes and you can physically see the difference from where you began.Maybe even a little bit of euphoria from post workout endorphins even. Just something to show you constant changes,and something positive going on. You can spend a half hour to 2 hours doing whatever your doing and be done.

With dieting,it effects you every time you're hungry. How hungry you are,and how hungry you're going to be. A 24 hour process that's much more difficult in comparison.

It is much easier for a novice/beginner in dieting to start easing into a good diet(but stick to it mostly),and see results. Then throwing themselves into a pack of wolves,but trying to eat 100% clean throughout a planned period. It's very easy to get negative.

A great diet yields amazing results.It just takes most people a lot of trial and error failures. Building discipline over those times is what matters,and being happy with what you've done.
 
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powerlifter;1837156; said:
A great diet yields amazing results.It just takes most people a lot of trial and error failures. Building discipline over those times is what matters,and being happy with what you've done.

Talk about understatements. :biggrin:

This three months of P90x and altering my diet has taught me a LOT about my body and its diet.
 
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Is there anyone out there who has done the program without the diet at all?
I'm on week 4 now, and have been trying to eat healthy, but wondering if I'm really screwing myself over by not doing the diet.

I'm doing the program with my dad, basically just for a bit of a change-up in my workout routine after I finished my football season, and he doesn't really wanna do the diet, so I'm pretty much shit outta luck. I want to do the diet, but I'm in high school so I'm not going to be buying my own groceries anytime soon.

I'm just wondering how people have done without the diet and if anyone has any advice as to how to try to adhere to the nutritional guidelines without actually following the diet. Thanks!
 
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SCBuck13;1837250; said:
Is there anyone out there who has done the program without the diet at all?
I'm on week 4 now, and have been trying to eat healthy, but wondering if I'm really screwing myself over by not doing the diet.

I'm doing the program with my dad, basically just for a bit of a change-up in my workout routine after I finished my football season, and he doesn't really wanna do the diet, so I'm pretty much [censored] outta luck. I want to do the diet, but I'm in high school so I'm not going to be buying my own groceries anytime soon.

I'm just wondering how people have done without the diet and if anyone has any advice as to how to try to adhere to the nutritional guidelines without actually following the diet. Thanks!

FWIW, I am not following the P90x diet. I've essentially gone almost completely no-carb/no-sugar. I eat a LOT of eggs, bacon, other meats, veggies, some fruits, and greek yogurt. I would imagine that your folks buy a lot of the above. I should note that it wasn't until I got rid of the carbs/sugar that I started to see results and not just feel stronger.
 
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fanaticbuckeye;1837266; said:
Mmmmmm, cholesterol.

I could cut out sugars in foods, but I can't live without my pepsi.

I rarely drink any soda any more and haven't for some time. It's the other sugar "containers" that were hard for me. Ultimately, it was pretty cool to see myself actually lose weight for the first time in 3 years of exercising. I had been going to the gym 4-5 times a week, and never lost any weight although I got stronger. With the change in diet and the P90x, I've lost over 10 pounds in three months and maintained the strength. Now, I'm a whopping ~164 lbs at 5'9". :biggrin: Huge, man. Huge!
 
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muffler dragon;1837259; said:
FWIW, I am not following the P90x diet. I've essentially gone almost completely no-carb/no-sugar. I eat a LOT of eggs, bacon, other meats, veggies, some fruits, and greek yogurt. I would imagine that your folks buy a lot of the above. I should note that it wasn't until I got rid of the carbs/sugar that I started to see results and not just feel stronger.

My diet pretty much consists of what your referring, i'll probably just have to cut out a lot of the sugar I eat. Thanks for the help.
 
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fanaticbuckeye;1837266; said:
Mmmmmm, cholesterol.

1. Dietary cholesterol has no correlation to blood serum cholesterol.
2. Elevated blood serum cholesterol does not cause heart disease.

The Lipid Hypothesis is wrong.

Sugar kills. Cholesterol is harmless.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCVo8HbDpXI"]YouTube - Sugar and Starch[/ame]
 
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Dryden;1837549; said:
1. Dietary cholesterol has no correlation to blood serum cholesterol.
2. Elevated blood serum cholesterol does not cause heart disease.

The Lipid Hypothesis is wrong.

Sugar kills. Cholesterol is harmless.
I'm not entirely sure if you just called me a name, invited me over for dinner, or educated me.
 
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BoxCar_Willie;1841207; said:
Has anyone ever tried a testosterone booster? I'm getting up there in age and have been considering buying one.

I took andro before big mac did. I used to be pretty big on pro hormones. I got great gains from them imo. Looking back now though i'll say that if I thought I had a legit testosterone deficiency I'd ask my doc about it. TRT (testosterone replacement therapy) is becoming more popular then ever (as it should be imo).

Obviously,i'm trying to veer away from an age old argument,but i'll say that there are legit side effects of pro hormones. Normally,the most potent ones are pulled off the market after awhile(reasons vary).

If for some reason someone here is thinking about doing a pro hormone,do yourself a favor and plan out your post cycle therapy(you'll thank me).

In a nutshell,I used pro hormones to get bigger/stronger. I would not use them now,because there is a period of coming down from them,and your body has to rebound. With age,it becomes harder to rebound.
 
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powerlifter;1841226; said:
If for some reason someone here is thinking about doing a pro hormone,do yourself a favor and plan out your post cycle therapy(you'll thank me).
and pre- and in-cycle therapy. also, don't start with anything until you have everything in front of you. more importantly, don't start with anything until, as powerlifter stated, you see a doctor. testosterone and lipid profiles are highly recommended.

as stated in the private message to boxcar, i've never tried pro-hormones or steroids. the rewards aren't worth the probable risks. furthermore, the gains aren't permanent. heck, about 25-50% of the in-cycle gains will be lost post-cycle, especially if the post-cycle therapy and workout regimen aren't adequate.
 
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Thanks for the input guys. I'm already a big guy and strong/fast. With this upcoming deployment in about the worst part of Afghanistan I'm looking at a lot of things. Don't think I'm gonna try pro stuff though. I did hear Growth hormone grows your winky too. Not that anyone needs any bigger winky.
 
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I finished P90x on Tuesday. I am very pleased with the results. Who knows the impact that the diet v. the program made the most results; however, it's definitely more sustainable to stick with the diet. I'm going to start working on my five essential movements from Primal Blueprint Fitness. From P90x, I believe I'm pretty damn close to reaching good levels in those.

FWIW, I really enjoyed the P90x time. Thought about becoming a coach, but I think I'll pass.
 
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