OSU_Buckguy
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wiznitzer to louisville. he reclassified to 2020, so that effectively took us out of the running.
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nomatta
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Dang, I thought I read something recently where Wiz was leaning towards not reclassifying--guess not. Think he will be real good for UL in a couple years time.
Seems like Mick Walker might be right about the whole "no 2020 big" thing, and frankly I haven't really felt great about our chances with any one of them. Of the current offers I think we are down to basically Reid and Etienne. Maybe they offer Trey James now...
Seems like Mick Walker might be right about the whole "no 2020 big" thing, and frankly I haven't really felt great about our chances with any one of them. Of the current offers I think we are down to basically Reid and Etienne. Maybe they offer Trey James now...
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OSU_Buckguy
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billingsley stated last month that osu was one of a number of schools showing interest in him. it's anyone's guess what that means regarding osu, though. i doubt there is much going on between the two camps. it's just an offer i wish we'd extend since i don't see us getting reid/bediako/holmgren/etc. also because i think billingsley will prove to be much better than his ranking/reputation. the way that i see it, billingsley and mason miller are very similar players. if we're going after miller, then perhaps we should be going after billingsley.
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ShowMeBuck
You know what? Chicken butt.
I agree and I suspect Holt cares deeply about finding system guys and values intangible things but is realistic enough to know that he has to have some high ranking ‘talent’ but that’s just my two cents.
If that’s even a little true then his recruiting would be hard to pigeon hole. It’s much easier to follow the recruiting by schools who thrive on the elite one and done types who are basically hired guns.
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nomatta
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I do think character/culture fit is a pretty high priority for Holtmann and we don't know what all criteria the staff has for that and how that affects their recruiting. But in general they don't seem to be real structured in their recruiting approach in terms of how that affects their overall roster composiition and management. Part of that might be because it seems like Holtmann is really aware that he is going to have players transfer out and he is very willing to use the transfer market to bring in key pieces... and we might have to get used to that. The core rotation of Thad's teams were typically HS recruits; next season we are gonna have transfers Walker, Sueing, Towns, and Porter all in important roles.
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ShowMeBuck
You know what? Chicken butt.
I almost replied before reading all your post and then I got to the part where you discuss transfers. I think that is it in a nutshell. Holt has said repeatedly that transfers the last decade have made a major impact on the game and he is totally committed to working within that reality which I think is the sign of an intelligent leader.
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LitlBuck
Kevin Warren is an ass
I guess I am one of the loners because I would not go that far. To be honest, I am getting tired of all the transfers… Both in and out. I know that everyone is doing it and so Ohio State might as well do it also. I guess I do not understand how you can never build a cohesive team losing players and bringing in guys from all over. I was very pleased when they hired CH but to be honest is recruiting/player management has really turned me off.
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nomatta
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There was nearly a thousand transfers this off-season. It is a reality that is just getting harder and harder to avoid. Even a program like Wisconsin that was built on system recruiting and careful class balance is now enduring transfers out and using the transfer portal to bring guys in.
A coach can either embrace that reality or he can do everything he can to minimize transfers out. I am not sure there is a right answer there, but ultimately I think it is probably smarter to embrace the reality to some extent because you can't force these kids to stay. I mean, Luther was a two-year starter!
A coach can either embrace that reality or he can do everything he can to minimize transfers out. I am not sure there is a right answer there, but ultimately I think it is probably smarter to embrace the reality to some extent because you can't force these kids to stay. I mean, Luther was a two-year starter!
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ScriptOhio
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Scoop On The Road Notebook: Wildcat Select and AJ Clayton Workout
This past Saturday I made a trip to the fine city of Pittsburgh for a ‘Training Day” event hosted by Adidas Gauntlet team Wildcat Select. Right after that event, I headed back to the great city of Hillard to catch a handful of 2022 and 2021 prospects in a private workout.
With it being a busy day, it has taken some time to catch up on everything, but we will unpack it all in this notebook article. For those of you who follow me on Twitter (@MickDWalker), this notebook will have a similar look to my last Scoop On The Road Twitter thread but with more detail.
Isaac McKneely, Poca High School (WV), 6-foot-3 Wing (2022)
Out of all the players at the Wildcat Select event, McKneely was my absolute favorite to watch play during game-like settings. Some basketball players and prospects just have a natural feel for the game where they don’t get sped up and are always one step ahead. That is McKneely to a T. He was the smoothest and best shooter at the event by a wide margin. On top of being a very consistent shooter, McKneely was also dynamic with the ball in his hand whether it was driving to the hoop or dishing to a teammate. All in all, McKneely more than lived up to the hype he had coming into the event. This spring he has picked up offers from West Virginia, Maryland, and Louisville, along with some interest from Indiana, Virginia, and Ohio State. As a matter of fact, McKneely visited the Buckeyes during the winter for a game, and from speaking to him, Ohio State is a program he has high interest in. However, with Bowen Hardman already in the 2022 class, the Buckeyes may not have room for McKneely. Ohio State could very well offer though, and if they do he and Hardman would be a lights out shooting combination. Regardless of where the Poca High School standout goes for college I fully expect him to be very successful and one of the country’s best shooters.
Shawn Phillips, Belmont High School (OH), 6-foot-11 Center (2022)
As I put out on Twitter, Phillips was Ohio State’s biggest target at the event in both the figurative and literal sense. Saturday was my first ever seeing Phillips and he is every bit of the 6-foot-11 he is listed at. On top of that, Phillips looked every bit of 250 pounds if not more. As for his actual play, Phillips played solid all-around on the offensive and defensive end but never really had any wow plays. Since it was my first time seeing Phillips and a three-month-long quarantine just ended, I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, but I did not think he played his best on Saturday. He did have some nice plays in the post on both ends of the court because of his big frame, but I would have liked to see him move better and quicker. With all that said, there were times on Saturday where you could see his potential and that is why I want to see him again. Obviously he is a big-time target for Ohio State in 2022 at the center position but he still has work to do and some other Ohio prospects are gaining on him. As for his recruitment, this is a very contested one between Midwest programs with Ohio State battling schools like Indiana and Maryland.
AJ Clayton, Philo High School (OH), 6-foot-9 Center (2022)
I mentioned that in-state players are gaining on Shawn Phillips when it comes to college offers and one of those players is AJ Clayton. After playing last spring as a 6-foot-7, 210-pound post player, Clayton is now a legitimate 6-foot-9, 230-pound center prospect. I did not get to see Clayton in a live game setting but I did get to watch him go through a full workout and came away very impressed. He moved very well inside the paint, around the perimeter, and really anywhere on the court. On top of looking very agile, Clayton also shot the ball at a very high clip and was one of the best shooters I saw all day. As one can see from their given measurables, Clayton is much smaller than Phillips. He also holds fewer high major offers and garners much less national attention. But he moved far better than Phillips on Saturday, along with possessing a much better shooting stroke and handling with the ball. He still needs to work on adding muscle to his frame while keeping all of his speed and skill, but if he does Clayton could have a big rise. I believe that if Clayton got to play on the EYBL circuit this spring and summer with his All-Ohio Red team then he would already have high major offers. By the time his recruitment is over, I would not be surprised to see him in the Big Ten or ACC, and maybe even Ohio State as the Buckeyes are keeping a close eye on how Clayton develops. As of now though, Clayton holds four offers from the likes of Ohio, Kent State, Robert Morris, and St. Joseph’s.
Under the Radar Ohio 2021 Prospects Standout
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Entire article: https://buckeyescoop.com/page/blog/...book-wildcat-select-and-aj-clayton-workout-2/
This past Saturday I made a trip to the fine city of Pittsburgh for a ‘Training Day” event hosted by Adidas Gauntlet team Wildcat Select. Right after that event, I headed back to the great city of Hillard to catch a handful of 2022 and 2021 prospects in a private workout.
With it being a busy day, it has taken some time to catch up on everything, but we will unpack it all in this notebook article. For those of you who follow me on Twitter (@MickDWalker), this notebook will have a similar look to my last Scoop On The Road Twitter thread but with more detail.
Isaac McKneely, Poca High School (WV), 6-foot-3 Wing (2022)
Out of all the players at the Wildcat Select event, McKneely was my absolute favorite to watch play during game-like settings. Some basketball players and prospects just have a natural feel for the game where they don’t get sped up and are always one step ahead. That is McKneely to a T. He was the smoothest and best shooter at the event by a wide margin. On top of being a very consistent shooter, McKneely was also dynamic with the ball in his hand whether it was driving to the hoop or dishing to a teammate. All in all, McKneely more than lived up to the hype he had coming into the event. This spring he has picked up offers from West Virginia, Maryland, and Louisville, along with some interest from Indiana, Virginia, and Ohio State. As a matter of fact, McKneely visited the Buckeyes during the winter for a game, and from speaking to him, Ohio State is a program he has high interest in. However, with Bowen Hardman already in the 2022 class, the Buckeyes may not have room for McKneely. Ohio State could very well offer though, and if they do he and Hardman would be a lights out shooting combination. Regardless of where the Poca High School standout goes for college I fully expect him to be very successful and one of the country’s best shooters.
Shawn Phillips, Belmont High School (OH), 6-foot-11 Center (2022)
As I put out on Twitter, Phillips was Ohio State’s biggest target at the event in both the figurative and literal sense. Saturday was my first ever seeing Phillips and he is every bit of the 6-foot-11 he is listed at. On top of that, Phillips looked every bit of 250 pounds if not more. As for his actual play, Phillips played solid all-around on the offensive and defensive end but never really had any wow plays. Since it was my first time seeing Phillips and a three-month-long quarantine just ended, I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, but I did not think he played his best on Saturday. He did have some nice plays in the post on both ends of the court because of his big frame, but I would have liked to see him move better and quicker. With all that said, there were times on Saturday where you could see his potential and that is why I want to see him again. Obviously he is a big-time target for Ohio State in 2022 at the center position but he still has work to do and some other Ohio prospects are gaining on him. As for his recruitment, this is a very contested one between Midwest programs with Ohio State battling schools like Indiana and Maryland.
AJ Clayton, Philo High School (OH), 6-foot-9 Center (2022)
I mentioned that in-state players are gaining on Shawn Phillips when it comes to college offers and one of those players is AJ Clayton. After playing last spring as a 6-foot-7, 210-pound post player, Clayton is now a legitimate 6-foot-9, 230-pound center prospect. I did not get to see Clayton in a live game setting but I did get to watch him go through a full workout and came away very impressed. He moved very well inside the paint, around the perimeter, and really anywhere on the court. On top of looking very agile, Clayton also shot the ball at a very high clip and was one of the best shooters I saw all day. As one can see from their given measurables, Clayton is much smaller than Phillips. He also holds fewer high major offers and garners much less national attention. But he moved far better than Phillips on Saturday, along with possessing a much better shooting stroke and handling with the ball. He still needs to work on adding muscle to his frame while keeping all of his speed and skill, but if he does Clayton could have a big rise. I believe that if Clayton got to play on the EYBL circuit this spring and summer with his All-Ohio Red team then he would already have high major offers. By the time his recruitment is over, I would not be surprised to see him in the Big Ten or ACC, and maybe even Ohio State as the Buckeyes are keeping a close eye on how Clayton develops. As of now though, Clayton holds four offers from the likes of Ohio, Kent State, Robert Morris, and St. Joseph’s.
Under the Radar Ohio 2021 Prospects Standout
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Entire article: https://buckeyescoop.com/page/blog/...book-wildcat-select-and-aj-clayton-workout-2/
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If Clayton is that good then why did his team have such a terrible record last year?
Plays against low level teams as well.
They were 1-21 winning their first game of the season and lost 74-15 in sectionals.
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