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ORD_Buckeye;1007756; said:
My hope is that this is a transition stage. It will allow the BTN the ability to brand "Big Ten Hockey" while testing the waters for its revenue potential and give Penn State and Illinois some time to transition to D1 programs. Illinois might struggle given a sketchier cash flow from football and recruiting considerations, but I think Penn State could build a solid program given their football program's status as a cash cow and the school's physical proximity to the recruiting hotbeds in New England.

That would give us 7 hockey schools. If it proves financially feasible, then it would make good sense for other B10 schools to add D1 hockey. Northwestern, to me, seems like a natural given Chicago's history as a hockey town (until Dollar Bill ruined it) and the proven ability of other academically competitive private universities to field top D1 programs. Given their football situation, however, it would absolutely need to be predicated upon a proven, lucrative revenue stream from the BTN.

How sweet would a Big Ten hockey tournament rotating between Joe Louis Arena, The Schott ti would be nationwide id guess, The United Center, and whatever the NHL facility in Minneapolis is exel energy.

Title IX considerations would need to be met and, again, my hunch is they would be predicated upon the BTN generating the necessary cash. I'd guess that there'd be a push to form a Big Ten women's hockey league, which I'd be fine with.

Plus, living in Chicago how great will it be to be able to watch Ohio State-Michigan or Ohio State-Wisconsin hockey in 42" of high-def.
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i know wisc and minnesota have womens programs off the top of my head and ill has a club team

bg and findlay have teams i believe for women also
 
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The Big Ten has always been, at best, lukewarm to the idea of Big Ten hockey. My guess is that being the result of two considerations A) revenue and B) Title IX considerations which are nothing more than an extension of A. So what's changed? The BTN can be the financial catalyst to answer the above concerns while, from its own perspective, needing a Big Ten Hockey league to build its worth and product.

Big Ten hockey wouldn't be the product equivalent of football or men's basketball but sure as shit would be a more valuable property than volleyball or women's lacrosse. Best case scenario, I see a real symbiotic relationship. The Big Ten Network needs a Big Ten hockey league, and the Big Ten schools need the BTN to make that league financially feasible.
 
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Let's not forget that a Big Ten hockey league goes miles towards differentiating ourselves from the other two D1 hockey programs in the state. Right now, we compete with BG and Miami of Ohio on an equal footing, in the same league and in the same state with a minimal hockey culture. It seems as though only one of these three programs can ever be on top at once. We were there until 2005, and Miami of Ohio has taken over from there while we've regressed.

If you strip the CCHA of its two marquee programs (UM and MSU) along with us (great facilities and a good but still second tier hockey history). Combine those three with with two other marquee programs (Minny and Wiscy) and a couple of other new, but well financed, Big Ten schools, then give that league its own national cable channel...

...BOOM...

...you relegate the CCHA to mid-major status along with our two in-state competitors. Hell, they no longer remain our competitors. Like in everything else, they become the mid-majors, and we are the big boy program that plays in the big boy league that you can watch on television instead of by internet feed. We have the state to ourselves as God and the Hayeses (Rutherford B. and Woody) intended it.

Additionally, think about what a Big Ten league would mean towards building up a hockey culture among students and alums. Right now, Hockey is a distant, distant third behind football and b-ball, possibly even behind baseball and women's b-ball. Imagine, however, that our schedule was filled with weekend series against Minnesota, Wiscy, PSU, UM, MSU and a couple of other Big Ten universities as opposed to Nebraska-Omaha, Miami of Ohio, Ferris State, BG, Lake Superior State, Directional Michigan. I think that kind of scheduling, combined with the television exposure necessary to build fan interest, would resonate pretty strongly with the students and in-town alums. Hockey is never going to rise to the level of football or men's basketball. With the unique exception of Minnesota, hockey is never the premier sport at any university where's it's not the only big boy sport on campus. That doesn't mean that it can't be a prominent player on campus.
 
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good points but the reality is a womens hockey team currently cost the university 1.5m and the revenue is $1,642. the math doesnt add up at this point without major subsidies. many schools cant afford to keep up in football and basketball (indiana etc...)

currently you have osu, minny, wisc and five mens teams.

go back to the western conf you have chicago no team, lake forrest and toronto

so then is the answer a couple of secondary programs? or do you maybe try and swing a canadian school or two?


at this point its a pipe dream
 
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jimotis4heisman;1009024; said:
good points but the reality is a womens hockey team currently cost the university 1.5m and the revenue is $1,642. the math doesnt add up at this point without major subsidies. many schools cant afford to keep up in football and basketball (indiana etc...)

currently you have osu, minny, wisc and five mens teams.

go back to the western conf you have chicago no team, lake forrest and toronto

so then is the answer a couple of secondary programs? or do you maybe try and swing a canadian school or two?


at this point its a pipe dream
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Good points all, JO4H. I'd maybe call it a far off vision rather than a pipe dream. My only hope is that there is a plan being discussed behind closed doors, and this is an initial "toe in the water" towards determining its ultimate feasibility. Maybe my judgment's clouded by my desire to see this happen, but I truly think Big Ten hockey would not only work but in very short order would become the premier college hockey league in the country given the universities involved combined with their own cable network.
 
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Hmmmm, that might require a visit to my local Michigan bar. Damn, I wish we could get the program back on track.
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Yeah....but they are starting what 10 freshmen this year? You're going to take your lumps in a team game like hockey if you do that.

However I would like to point out that Yost Barn or whatever the hell they call that place is LOUDER than the Big House....a 10,000 or so seat arena is seemingly louder than a 110,000 seat football stadium.
 
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COLLEGE HOCKEY: Just like football: OSU stymies U-M; MSU wins

December 1, 2007
FREE PRESS STAFF REPORTS

Ohio State went into Ann Arbor and won again -- this time on an ice sheet instead of a rainy football field.
The Buckeyes stunned No. 2 Michigan, 3-2, on Friday night at Yost Arena, stopping U-M's winning streak at 12.

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Men's Hockey Freshmen Kyle Reed, Peter Boyd Lead Buckeyes to Comeback Win in Overtime vs. St. Lawrence

COLUMBUS, Ohio ? Buckeye freshman Peter Boyd?s goal 56 seconds into overtime lifted the Ohio State men?s hockey team to a 3-2 victory over St. Lawrence Friday in Value City Arena. The Buckeyes were down, 2-0, after the first period but cut the lead to one on Tommy Goebel?s second-period tally and freshman Kyle Reed scored with less than three minutes left in regulation to force overtime.
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The Lady Buckeyes hockey team news.

The Ohio State women?s hockey team concludes 2007 with a road series at No. 3 Minnesota Duluth, Dec. 8-9. Games for the Western Collegiate Hockey Association series begin at 3:37 p.m. (CT) Saturday and 3:07 p.m. Sunday at the Duluth Entertainment and Convention Center in Duluth, Minn.
The Buckeyes (8-6-2, 5-5-2 WCHA) were off last weekend and their series against the Bulldogs is their only December matchup. Last time out, Ohio State split a home series against St. Cloud State. UMD (12-3-1, 11-3-0) is coming off a sweep at then-No. 4 Wisconsin.
BARTO NABS 200TH WIN
Ohio State defeated St. Cloud State by a score of 4-1 Nov. 24 at the OSU Ice Rink to give head coach [URL="https://admin.xosn.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=17300&ATCLID=1057461"]Jackie Barto[/URL] the 200th victory of her career. She is just the seventh active coach in NCAA Division I and the 11th coach all-time to reach the milestone. Barto now has a career record of 200-202-40 in her 13th year with a 130-149-30 mark in nine seasons at Ohio State. The first and only head coach in OSU women?s hockey history, Barto reached her 100th Ohio State win Jan. 28, 2006, vs. Minnesota at the OSU Ice Rink. Prior to Ohio State, she spent five years coaching at Providence College.
 
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Two future lady Hockey players amke the Canadian team. Woohoo.
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COLUMBUS, Ohio ? Two future Buckeyes in forwards Laura McIntosh and Natalie Spooner have been named to Canada?s National Women?s Under-18 Team, Hockey Canada announced. The team will compete in the inaugural World Women?s Under-18 Championship hosted by the International Ice Hockey Federation, Jan. 7-12 in Calgary, Alberta.
The pair signed NCAA National Letters of Intent to join the Ohio State women?s hockey team for the 2008-09 season, as announced by head coach [URL="https://admin.xosn.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=17300&ATCLID=1057461"]Jackie Barto[/URL], Dec. 4. Both McIntosh and Spooner were members of the Canadian squad that swept Team USA in a three-game series in August at Lake Placid, N.Y. Spooner served as an assistant captain of that team.
 
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Dispatch

Ohio Hockey Classic: Buckeyes struggle to switch direction
OSU no longer has preeminent program in Ohio
Saturday, December 29, 2007 7:58 AM
By Shawn Mitchell


The Columbus Dispatch
The Ohio Hockey Classic was created to become a showcase for the Ohio State men's hockey program, but there hasn't been much to show off this season. The Buckeyes, who will play host to the four-team tournament beginning today in Value City Arena, opened with two victories, then lost their next 11 games. They are now 5-13-2 (2-9-1 in the Central Collegiate Hockey Association) and in danger of a third consecutive losing season.



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