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ysubuck;1952500; said:
Yep.

I've heard nothing about Oregon OR North Carolina on ESPIN.

ESPIN did report on Kalis de-committing though.
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You can forget it. ESPN is going to be all over you guys like white on rice. That's evident that they've sued you guys to attempt to get more dirt.
 
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Mike Bellotti: ?I Believe There Will Be Sanctions?

Posted by Brooks on Jul. 12, 2011, 3:14pm

During an appearance on Portland radio today, former Oregon head football coach Mike Bellotti defended his hand-picked successor to take over the Ducks program.
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(Kelly ex-boss, benefactor: ?Chip said he?s done nothing wrong. I believe him?)​
At a charity golf tournament in Bend, Oregon, Bellotti was asked by 750 The Game host Jay Allen about the current NCAA investigation into the Oregon football program?s recruiting practices. In response, the former Ducks coach said that he believed Kelly had done nothing wrong but that the UO program would eventually be hit by some manner of NCAA sanctions.
From the 750 The Game interview today:
Jay Allen: ?You ran a very tight ship at Oregon and now the NCAA is taking a look at some things. Have you talked to Chip? What?s your take on what?s going on with that [NCAA investigation]??
Mike Bellotti: ?I have talked to Chip and I feel it?s more probably a bad business deal than a bad choice about how they do business. Chip feels that he?s done nothing wrong and I believe him in that regard. I don?t know what?s gone down with [Houston-based recruiting service operator] Will Lyles and all that.


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osugrad21;1952913; said:
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Mike Bellotti: ?I Believe There Will Be Sanctions?
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Uh oh, kiss of death when the former AD/Head coach starts talkin... Some guy named Gene defended a well known, well respected, highly thought of guy named Jim and now here we sit months later with a different head coach and an embattled AD hoping the NCAA doesn't decide to get a wild hair and drop an imaginary hammer on the team.

Then again, it could be the "Chill the eff out....I gots this.....because I work for the Four Letter Network," kiss too....funny thing is, former head coach WAS the head coach when all this crap Kelly did happened....:biggrin:
 
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ysubuck;1952500; said:
Yep.

I've heard nothing about Oregon OR North Carolina on ESPIN.

ESPIN did report on Kalis de-committing though.
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They talked about Oregon on College Football Live today. They talked to former Oregon coach Mike Bellotti. A summary of the conversation:

Bellotti - "My last year there, we paid about $17,000 for a recruiting package just for California. So $25,000 for a 'national package' seems OK. And you can also get value by having somebody steer you away from guys that aren't worth recruiting, saving money by not taking recruiting trips, etc."

At this point, surely the hard-hitting journalists at ESPN would say "What about the fact that the package was basically worthless since it was almost completely about guys from Texas in the 2009 class, rather than the 2011 class?"

Nope - no such question was asked.

Later, Bellotti - "It's tough for Chip Kelly. He can't comment during an ongoing investigation."

ESPN -"Is Chip Kelly in any danger of losing his job?"

Bellotti - "I don't think so. Oregon says they've done nothing wrong."

At this point, surely the hard-hitting ESPN journalists would ask about the alleged coverup, since Willie Lyles himself recently stated that Oregon had him send some spreadsheets on 2011 recruits after the story first broke about Oregon paying Lyles this Spring. Surely they'd ask if that could get Kelly in hot water, since the coverup, rather than the actual improper action, frequently brings about the downfall, right?

Nope - no such question was asked.

How about tossing in other recent revelations by Willie Lyles that portray Oregon in a negative light: Was there any mention of Lyles devising the plan to have LaMichael James switching high schools in order to avoid the difficulties he had with the TAKS (a Texas state math test required for graduation)? - Nope

How about asking about the personal Thank You note that Chip Kelly sent Willie Lyles, or showing a copy of it on the screen? - Nope, it wasn't mentioned or displayed.

How about mentioning that a while ago Kelly acted like he didn't know somebody named "Willie Lyles", and then when confronted more directly, came up with "We call him Will Lyles."? Nope, no mention of that.

Was there any mention of two Oregon athletic department personnel sending Willie Lyles instructions on how to get Lache Seastrunk's grandmother to sign his LOI for Oregon, since Seastrunk's mother refused to sign it? - Nope

How about mentioning the fact that last month All-American DB/PR Cliff Harris was stopped for speeding in a car that was rented by a University of Oregon employee, and that Harris's license was suspended at the time? Nope - no mention of that.

Contrast that with ESPN starting in on tOSU stories recently, with the background being a SportsCenter Host saying that "Terrelle Pryor sold his autographs for $20,000 to $40,000" - an allegation that at this point is unproven, and based on an ESPN interview of somebody who insisted on remaining anonymous. And then the number of times over the past several months that they display and rattle off the timeline of events.

Anybody that doesn't think that ESPN has an agenda against Ohio State football is simply kidding themselves. And it's business-driven, as LeCharles Bentley stated on the radio yesterday.
 
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E!spn is no more a news source than E!, tmz or any of those other celebrity-driven networks/sites. What's worse, they're no longer satisfied to report the news (and haven't been for the better part of a decade), they now feel the need to manipulate it, or worse, create their own. Fuck them. I just hope the tOSU administration has the chutzpah to tell them to go fuck themselves from here on out, and I suspect they will.
 
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I personally don't think there's a witchunt against tOSU. UNC and Oregon just don't compare historically with our football team, so the nation won't really care. We're a far bigger story than those schools ever will be. I feel kind of flattered that ESPN put so much coverage on us, it will only show in the end that our sanctions won't be that bad, and if they are, our school will rebound twice as hard after they're through. This scenario would be like if Alabama or Oklahoma were sanctioned the same time as Boise State and Texam A & M. Few people would care about BSU or TAMU. If Oregon is sanctioned heavily though, they're screwed, they don't consistently bring in the top flight talent that tOSU does, and they don't have a home state that produces top talent either, unlike OH. Convincing OOS kids(mainly CA kids) to come there when they're under sanctions will be quite tough, and it may be equally tough to keep snagging top kids from TX as well with Lyles pointing fingers
 
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pnuts34;1953219; said:
I personally don't think there's a witchunt against tOSU. UNC and Oregon just don't compare historically with our football team, so the nation won't really care. We're a far bigger story than those schools ever will be. I feel kind of flattered that ESPN put so much coverage on us, it will only show in the end that our sanctions won't be that bad, and if they are, our school will rebound twice as hard after they're through. This scenario would be like if Alabama or Oklahoma were sanctioned the same time as Boise State and Texam A & M. Few people would care about BSU or TAMU. If Oregon is sanctioned heavily though, they're screwed, they don't consistently bring in the top flight talent that tOSU does, and they don't have a home state that produces top talent either, unlike OH. Convincing OOS kids(mainly CA kids) to come there when they're under sanctions will be quite tough, and it may be equally tough to keep snagging top kids from TX as well with Lyles pointing fingers
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No they are out to get us
 
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pnuts34;1953219; said:
I personally don't think there's a witchunt against tOSU. UNC and Oregon just don't compare historically with our football team, so the nation won't really care. We're a far bigger story than those schools ever will be. I feel kind of flattered that ESPN put so much coverage on us, it will only show in the end that our sanctions won't be that bad, and if they are, our school will rebound twice as hard after they're through. This scenario would be like if Alabama or Oklahoma were sanctioned the same time as Boise State and Texam A & M. Few people would care about BSU or TAMU. If Oregon is sanctioned heavily though, they're screwed, they don't consistently bring in the top flight talent that tOSU does, and they don't have a home state that produces top talent either, unlike OH. Convincing OOS kids(mainly CA kids) to come there when they're under sanctions will be quite tough, and it may be equally tough to keep snagging top kids from TX as well with Lyles pointing fingers
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This would be true except that they took the time to have a segment on Oregon, then soft balled it. If it "wasn't a big story like OSU" then they wouldn't have done a segment.

Instead they did a segment, and painted it as less severe than it truly is by ommitting established facts. Meanwhile, when ESPN reports on us hiring Mike Vrabel they feel the need to bring up every aspect of the story that led to Vrabel being hired.
 
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http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2011/07/willie_lyles_update_lsu_receiv.html

LSU received 32 DVDs of game and player highlight film for the $6,000 it paid Houston-based talent scout Willie Lyles for his "2010 JUCO perState Package," again raising the question of what Oregon received for its $25,000 payment to Lyles.

LSU released copies of the DVDs to The Oregonian on Thursday in response to a request under open-records law. As promised in Lyles' invoice, the videos included film of California and Kansas junior college players from the 2010-11 recruiting year.

LSU's transaction contrasts with Oregon's exchange with Lyles, in which the Ducks paid him $25,000 in 2010 for game and highlight film from 22 states but could not locate any cache of video from Lyles when asked for it by media outlets. The sole exception, included in a release of documents from UO last month, was a YouTube link, now dead, that Lyles emailed to an Oregon employee in January.

Oregon did receive video from Lyles, Oregon spokesman Dave Williford said Thursday. But Williford said he could not characterize how much video the Ducks received or in what format, or say whether the Ducks received anything other than the YouTube link. Video was the only item mentioned in Lyles' Feb. 22, 2010, invoice to Oregon.

If Lyles sent DVDs to Oregon as he did to LSU, it's not clear why the Ducks do not have them. Oregon's state records law generally requires institutions to retain records about recruitment of athletes for five years or until the end of an athlete's eligibility, whichever is longer.
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Not that it's particularly important, but I thought I would point out that the Register-Guard in Eugene has been rather lenient/lazy in its reporting on this. It's fascinating how much of a difference there is between the local paper reporting out here versus what you guys see the Dispatch doing to the Buckeyes. I would actually go so far as saying that the collective sphincter pinching going on out here is a long held breath hoping that nothing comes of the allegations.
 
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muffler dragon;1954313; said:
http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2011/07/willie_lyles_update_lsu_receiv.html



Not that it's particularly important, but I thought I would point out that the Register-Guard in Eugene has been rather lenient/lazy in its reporting on this. It's fascinating how much of a difference there is between the local paper reporting out here versus what you guys see the Dispatch doing to the Buckeyes. I would actually go so far as saying that the collective sphincter pinching going on out here is a long held breath hoping that nothing comes of the allegations.
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Nothing to see here. They paid $25,000 for a youtube link. Sounds legit.
 
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