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ORD_Buckeye;1948016; said:
Curious. If the student is accepting a scholarship to anywhere other than a Texas public university, and assuming he meets all the standard ncaa minimums, how can the state force him to pass this TAKS thing in order to accept the scholarship? What power do they have over the student, the ncaa or a university in X state to bar him from accepting a scholarship?
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they cant. As long as you meet the state you graduated from's requirements to graduate your good. I graduated high school in Alabama but went to OSU. As long as I passed the exit exam in Alabama thats all that matters. I'm not even the least bit shocked by that, but what I really wonder about is if he's having that much trouble with a basic high school assessment ... how the hell does he have passing grades in college.. thats just me.
 
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AuTX Buckeye;1948021; said:
I'm not even the least bit shocked by that, but what I really wonder about is if he's having that much trouble with a basic high school assessment ... how the hell does he have passing grades in college.. thats just me.
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Extensive tutoring and being channeled into a major requiring a minimal amount of cognitive ability. It happens at almost every major program, including Ohio State. At Texas, they literally created a special major for Radio that was not open to normal students.

What I wonder is how hard this Texas test is, and if he couldn't pass it, how he managed to get an ncaa minimum on the SAT.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1948023; said:
Extensive tutoring and being channeled into a major requiring a minimal amount of cognitive ability. It happens at almost every major program, including Ohio State. At Texas, they literally created a special major for Radio that was not open to normal students.

What I wonder is how hard this Texas test is, and if he couldn't pass it, how he managed to get an ncaa minimum on the SAT.
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That or... he pulled a Derrick Rose :wink:
 
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CBS.Dodd

Will Lyles drops a big, ol' dime on Oregon

It turns out Oregon was that dumb.

It did get in bed with a talent scout to lure tailback Lache Seastrunk to Oregon if you draw the thinnest of conclusions from Friday's Yahoo! Sports story. It turns out that talent scout/mentor/third party/opportunist Will Lyles did essentially photo shop a national recruiting package together follow Yahoo! Sports' initial report.

I didn't think Oregon could be so dumb. I was wrong.

The report details what is clearly a close relationship between Oregon and Lyles. The story says relationship with Chip Kelly goes back to 2007. The NCAA won't even have to try hard to classify Lyles as a representative of the university's athletic interests. In other words, a booster.

Instead, he allegedly funneled tens of thousands of dollars to a shady character with a relationship to a recruit. My God, it's Texas football. There's plenty to go around for everyone. Was Seastrunk worth it? We know now the answer is no.

Fallout? According to the story, the NCAA has already been in to talk to Lyles. But Lyles said they didn't ask specific questions that Yahoo! Sports did (go figure). You can bet they'll be back in wanting to see Lyles' emails and phone records too. Why wouldn't he cooperate? Lyles has the morals of a slug anyway. It looks to me that the only reason he rolled on Oregon was that they weren't going to pay him again.

Be very concerned Duck Nation. Oregon is in line for major penalties, the kind that burn a program to the ground. USC-like. Kelly's job could be in jeopardy. This is not USC looking the other way while Reggie Bush took money, this is a willful attempt to gain a recruiting and competitive advantage.

Can anyone win big without cheating? The question remains unanswered.

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ORD_Buckeye;1948016; said:
Curious. If the student is accepting a scholarship to anywhere other than a Texas public university, and assuming he meets all the standard ncaa minimums, how can the state force him to pass this TAKS thing in order to accept the scholarship? What power do they have over the student, the ncaa or a university in X state to bar him from accepting a scholarship?
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Passing the TAKS is a requirement for graduation in Texas.
 
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Fiutak weighs in.

CFN


If what Lyles said is true, then no matter how many ways you want to cut it, make excuses for it, or try to explain it away, sounds a whole lot like the University of Oregon wrote a check to pay for an agent to make sure players went to the school, and that?s a whole bunch worse. Again, if it?s all true and Lyles is really telling the truth, this isn?t some booster on the periphery handing over a bag of cash; this is a school, for all intents and purposes, paying to get players.

Of course, every major football program of note is doing this in some way, shape, or form, but Oregon appears to be mostly guilty of being galactically stupid enough to do his with real, hard, evidence.

Kelly actually sent Lyles a hand-written note to Lyles for ?orchestrating everything? to get players to visit Oregon, and assistants also sent off thank you notes for everything done. Throw in the check, and because of sheer laziness the football program is all but begging to be tagged by the NCAA.

College players work with agents and marketing companies all the time when they?re not supposed to, but Reggie Bush got USC killed because there was proof of the transactions. Jim Tressel is now spending his days trying to sell his book on morality and integrity because of a few e-mails. Why isn?t Auburn getting nailed to the wall for Stanley McClover? No hard proof. Why didn?t Ohio State get crushed earlier when Maurice Clarett said what was going on? No paper.

Don?t write it if you can say it, and don?t say it if you don?t have to. It was amateur hour when it came to what the Oregon allegedly did to get the players to make them professional.

Oregon?s football program bungled the Lyles-gate controversy from the start, and now it has to respond, even though it?s waiting for the NCAA to have a say in the matter. The higher-ups and school administrators have to take control because this goes to the heart of the integrity of the athletic department and the university?s institutional control.

Take what happened at Ohio State and run with it. Oregon, make it look like your university has a football program instead of the other way around. Make it look like you really and truly want to make this right, and if you?re going to stick to your story that you did nothing wrong, then you?d better be ready to back it up and undo the damage that Lyles just created.
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It's amazing the difference between the piece Dodd wrote and when he was on sports radio in Portland earlier this week. Going from apologetic to an arrogant dickhead in one fell swoop is a fascinating watch. It's not that I disagree with what he said, but I find myself irritated by his tone (especially in how quickly it changed).
 
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sflbuck;1948090; said:
After riding the NCAA Violations Tilt A Whril, I no longer take pleasure in the misfortune of others.
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Strange, because I now take a far greater pleasure in this. Give me more. I want to see photocopies of pay-for-play checks at Auburn that say "For third quarter INT against Bammer GREAT JOB KID!!!" I want night vision video of players at Miami picking up Lamborghinis in parking lots at midnight with sacks of cash in the passenger seat, and wrapped bricks of heroin in the glove box for delivery during road trips. I want players at Rutgers admitting that they're all told during recruiting where Jimmy Hoffa's body is buried. I want photos of Mack Brown on the grassy knoll and DNA evidence that Les Miles was with him chewing the grass...I WANT THE TRUTH!!!!

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bassbuckeye07;1948130; said:
Can anyone explain why Texas fans are getting restless over this??? I am slow and cant figure it out
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Lyles related money transaction between the father of a current Texas player - dad paid a few grand for some other kid to participate in a 7 on 7 camp if I got it right. But as the stuff happened before the kid was a Texas recruit, and the dad was not associated with the shorthorns at the time, I can't see it being a violation from my understanding of the booster definition.

Still, to have one of your guys associated with the Lyles and Oregon stink makes 'em nervous that the NCAA Goon Squad will make a visit and start talking with folks and poking around. Any major program is going to have a few warts if you look close enough and long enough, so that alone is a reason to make them feel concerned.
 
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