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Gatorubet;1948464; said:
The two matters are not apples and apples. Just like the MoC situation was very unique and far more news worthy than almost all of the other stories that you compare it with when discussing the matter. Really, try to find me as high profile an athlete as MoC who said the same type of things about his coach and program as he said about Tress.

That was unique in many ways.

There are valid reasons that y'all get more press when things go bad, some that are just unavoidable, and others that are self inflicted.
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Whatever.
 
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Canzano: Willie Lyles tells how Oregon left him holding the bag in recruiting scandal
?You called me scum,? Lyles said on Monday. ?I figure if I can change your mind, I can change anyone?s mind.?

Lyles told me he spoke for hours with NCAA investigators, who most certainly will circle back and ask more questions about Lyles dealings with the Ducks. Lyles said, ?I answered the questions they asked me, that was it. I really felt that, in a sense, I felt like I should help protect (Oregon) because we have a history.?

What?s changed?

?(Oregon) tried to make me seem incompetent,? Lyles said. ?The other spreadsheet I gave them was a lot more extensive, when they didn?t release that, it was like, ?Let?s make it look like Willie didn?t deliver what he said he was going to deliver.??

Lyles was referring to how Oregon handled the release of documents, sought by The Oregonian and other media outlets through public records requests. The documents were to show what Oregon received as part of a national recruiting package from Lyles
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?This is the way recruiting goes,? Lyles said of Seastrunk?s recruitment. ?I knew personal things about the kid. Those small things turn out to be big things in recruiting. It helps coaches form their approach.?

What kind of food does a recruit like? Who are the influential decision-makers in the recruit?s household? What kinds of perks does the recruit respond to?

Lyles said he advised Kelly that Seastrunk?s mother did not want her son to attend Oregon, and would have to be worked around. ?His mother was crazy with them. Just crazy talk to the (Ducks) coaches. It was unbelievable.?
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?He?s a complete Jordan-head,? Lyles said. ?That?s one of the big things he liked. So Oregon had a pair of Jordans for him --- only one of two pairs ever made.?
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Said Lyles: ?I did a lot of work. I felt my service was worth every penny. I overstepped the line some? helping (Seastrunk) get the (letter of intent) done was over the line? I didn?t know it was the wrong thing to do. But it?s not like I wasn?t going to do it. The kid wanted to go to school there.
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?I was told, ?This year we?re going to have to make sure the paperwork is in order,?? Lyles said. ?My talking (now) has nothing to do with me not having the money. It was because they made me look like an incompetent jerk who was trying to swindle money from there.
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Lyles said he?s willing to fully cooperate with NCAA investigators. Said Lyles: ?What did coach Kelly say to the NCAA? What did he say to the administration? That?s going to be a key piece of information for them. I keep things. I don?t throw things away. It bodes well in this circumstance.?
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?The University of Texas, they hate my guts,? Lyles said. ?At least they tell me they hate me instead of saying one thing about me, then saying things behind my back.?
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Said Lyles: ?Who do you think got Oregon State on (running back) Storm Woods?... I gave him to (former Beavers assistant) Reggie Davis. I was the one dealing with Oregon State. And I gave James Rodgers to Laney College (a junior college) who gave him to (offensive coordinator) Danny Langsdorf at Oregon State.?
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:shake: I despise these kinds of egomaniacal predators
 
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Hey Ducks...

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BuckeyeNation27;1948777; said:
The NCAA barely has the balls to punish the offending universities. I can't picture anything happening that would make them tell Nike to fuck off.
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I completely understand. Just becomes obvious (to me) that the shoes would be a particular benefit that Oregon would get over any other school.
 
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From 7/1:

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/or...f/2011/07/canzano_chip_kelly_loses_his_f.html

I spoke with University of Oregon football coach Chip Kelly in early March, amid reports that a Texas man named Willie Lyles was involved in a recruiting scandal that could bring down the Ducks program.

Kelly told me he didn't know who Willie Lyles was.

I believed him.

That same evening, a Yahoo Sports story reported that Lyles was paid $25,000 by Oregon. So I texted Kelly, asking him why he lied to me, and we ended up on the telephone, where Kelly insisted I'd confused him by asking about "Willie Lyles." He said, "around here, we call him 'Will.' We've already distanced ourselves from him, trust me."

I was a sucker then. I'm a sucker now.

Because Lyles went public again with his side of the story again on Friday. And it's a doozy. He says Oregon scrambled to cover its tracks around that same time, and asked him to provide scouting materials that it could offer to the public, and to the NCAA.

Those materials, Lyles said, were taken from his laptop and explain why he provided outdated and incomplete materials to the Ducks. Also, Lyles said he was involved in helping get LaMichael James eligible and in Eugene, and also, helped coordinate the signing of Lache Seastrunk's national letter of intent.

Not the stuff of a scouting service. And the hunch here is that the NCAA is going to circle back and interview Lyles again. The more he talks, the worse this gets for Oregon.

Lyles told Yahoo, "I look back at it now and they paid for what they saw as my access and influence with recruits. The service I provided went beyond what a scouting service should. ... I made a mistake and I'm big enough of a man to admit I was wrong."

I don't care for Lyles. But I find him credible. His story checks out just fine. Phone records show he talked to Kelly and Ducks assistants when he said he did. His explanation of the scouting materials fits with the documents Oregon released last month.

So it feels as though we've arrived at the beginning of the end of Kelly as the Ducks coach.

He may not be fired by Oregon. Kelly may not resign his position. But he's lost his footing, and if he's lied to NCAA investigators, they won't go easy on the Ducks should Oregon keep Kelly around.

I know. Oregon's position is that it feels like it's done nothing wrong here. If they believe that in their souls, I'll worry about them. But if Oregon hasn't already called Kelly on the carpet, it's the preservation of the institution that should be on the minds of administrators there today.

The NCAA will want to know who's in charge in Eugene?

Because what we have in Kelly is a guy with no prior experience as a head coach who took over the job while a pair of inexperienced athletic directors (Pat Killkenny and Mike Bellotti) were on watch. And you can't help but connect all of that and wonder if Oregon simply lost its way for a couple of years.

Was the lack of experience in those key positions how the Ducks ended up here today? Was anyone at all paying attention? And if this Kelly thing blows up in the worst way, is it possible that Bellotti could end up back on the sideline at Autzen?

All fair questions. And all of them will wait until after the NCAA sorts through the wreckage behind Lyles, and determines which rules were broken, and which were simply circumvented craftfully.

I covered Jerry Tarkanian for three seasons, and encountered characters such as Lyles in droves. Tark knew the rules and lived comfortably in the gray areas. A wise newspaper editor, frustrated with Tarkanian's ability to slip the blame, announced in the newsroom, "We only go to print if it's a shot to the heart."

That Yahoo report was a kill shot.

The NCAA will most certainly have more questions. And whether Oregon's big offense is breaking a rule, or scrambling to cover things up, becomes secondary to me. Now, I just mostly want to see the UO grab control of this spiraling situation and start acting like a place of higher learning.

Journalists shouldn't be policing the program. The summer shouldn't be spent scrambling.

I suspect Oregon is spending most of its time right now searching for the cleanest route out of this Lyles mess. The Ducks silence is deafening right now. And I suspect the quotable Kelly is bouncing off the walls, wanting to fire back at Lyles.

The Ducks didn't need Lyles. They were winning games without his help. And yeah, I'm a sucker because when I saw Oregon suit up against Auburn and controversial quarterback Cam Newton in the national title game, I believed the Ducks were the ones doing it the right way.

I'm not sure either team did after hearing the information coming from Lyles.

You know, the guy known around the football offices as "Will."

--John Canzano:
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