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Ohio University to play Ohio State in 2008

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Steve19;1063275; said:
If you look more closely at rankings, you will see that Ohio State's rankings typically are less than they might be because of the historically lower graduation rates. All large public universities suffer from this and Ohio State was seriously hurt by the state enforced admission criteria back in the 80s. The quality of this year's freshman class is nearly equal to that of any top ranked program.

That gap you point out could be closing between Ohio State and the Ivy League.
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One other factor influencing our current graduation rates, and one that I'm quite proud of, is Ohio State's commitment to racial and socio-economic diversity on its campus. Numerous studies have suggested that--even with similar incoming credentials (i.e. test scores, gpa and class rank)--first generation college students, students from lower income groups and/or members of underrepresented minority groups will graduate at lower levels than similarly credentialed students from more privileged backgrounds. In other words, a kid with a 28 ACT from a 35K year family who's the first in his family to go to college will most likely graduate at a slower rate than a kid with a 28 ACT from a 100K year family whose parents both are college graduates.

To illustrate Ohio State's commitment to socio-economic diversity on its campus, here are two recent statistics. Ohio State's 2007 freshman class, despite being the most selective in the state, still had 22.7% first generation students as opposed to a national average of 15.9%. A couple of years ago, Ohio State had 27% of their students coming from families with incomes of 100K or above. This compared with an average of 38% nationally for selective public universities. By comparison, the number for miami of ohio was 55% which even exceeded the average for selective private universities (54%). Is Miami of Ohio's advantage in grad rates really the result of anything special occurring in its classrooms, or is it the result of a student body that rarely faces any financial constraints as well as overwhelmingly being made up of students having the cultural advantage of having grown up in families where the parents are college graduates?

Personally, I'll gladly accept having a graduation rate a few points below Miami of Ohio's in order to have a university that truly acts as an engine of social mobility and advancement for the state, region and nation through a diverse student body as opposed to a student body that looks like that of an overgrown boarding school.
 
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Steve19;1063280; said:
Don't fool yourself, global rankings are incredibly important.
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Again, that's fine. I'm not denying or begrudging you your accolades. But I will say (again) that they do not matter to me personally. The education I'm getting in the classroom is secondary to me than what I'm getting outside of it. The way I've grown culturally and personally is way more important than that and really can't be reflected in any degree. It's been my long-standing belief that it isn't the education that matters but what you do with it. Quite frankly, I feel like I can go up against a graduate of Harvard and beat him out for a position we're both going for. Chances are I won't be ending my education at Ohio University, but it's been one heck of a place to continue it after high school.

I'm happy for Ohio State that it does as well as it does in the rankings. I don't know if it gives a model to follow, but it certainly gives us something to shoot for.
 
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Kickdown02;1065288; said:
So can we actually discuss the game itself?
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I predict pain, fool.

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OZoner;1062050; said:
I don't really mind the ones that root for the Buckeyes, but really, don't root against your school.
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Well, I know I was planning on going to OU after highschool, now i never made it down there for classes and wound up at Ohio State instead.. I can say without a doubt, if I went to OU for class.. and the Buckeyes were playing OU.. I would root for my school which is Ohio State, regaurdless of where I'm enrolled..

OZoner;1063807; said:
The education I'm getting in the classroom is secondary to me than what I'm getting outside of it.
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Such as tits, ass, and booze? :wink2:
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1063329; said:
Personally, I'll gladly accept having a graduation rate a few points below Miami of Ohio's in order to have a university that truly acts as an engine of social mobility and advancement for the state, region and nation through a diverse student body as opposed to a student body that looks like that of an overgrown boarding school.
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Miami's crowd also exudes snot from every pore by the bushel for the most part. I once had one of their alums tell me with a straight face that going there was on a par with going to the Ivy League. I think that's what his daddy told him so he could keep his little chin up.

Living in the southern end of the state, I've worked with tons of Miami's product. The vast majority were deeply unpleasant frat rats with delusions of never ending entitlement. On the other hand, while I have met the occasional OSU product who was a jackass, by and large the OSU'ers were much more pleasant to be around.

And for the record, I'm not an OSU educational product myself. I went to Wright State (which more than one Miami alum jackass tried to make fun of to my face, usually right after bragging how much booze they consumed in school and how close they came to flunking out).
 
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