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Posted this in Kyle Snyder's thread, but he's leaving Columbus RTC to wrestle for the Nittany Lions Wrestling Club in Happy Valley. I expect that to really hurt recruiting efforts moving forward, especially in the upper weights. He was a big selling point to our recruits.
That being said, I expect a really good season and think our young guys stepping into the lineup should shine. My updated predicted lineup:
125: Jacob Decatur (unless Malik has developed significantly in gaining weight and strength, Decatur takes his spot imo)
133: Luke Pletcher (I have Luke making finals in his senior year, hope he can pull it off)
141: Quinn Kinner (looked great wrestling unattached in his freshman year and will be ready to take the next step... think he can make some noise at NCAAs... will get good competition in the room from Stickley and D'Emilio)
149: Sammy Sasso (Sasso looked phenomenal in his redshirt year and notched some huge wins, almost beat Mic Jordan multiple times...Sasso is one of our next stars, book it now... also will get challenged by Mattox, though Mattox could bump up to challenge Hayes
157: Ke-Shawn Hayes (he really needs to step it up this year and add some muscle... have to have Hayes high up on the podium this year at NCAAs to get the title... he has the talent, just needs to put it together)
165: Carson Kharchla (shocker alert for the true freshman over Romero, I know...Kharchla is the whole package and could honestly compete for the title immediately, he's that good... Romero has not looked remotely impressive thus far and I don't see him hanging with Kharchla unfortunately... fortunately it's a major roster upgrade imo)
174: Rocky Jordan (shocker update number 2... what is RB07OSU doing?...well, when healthy, Rocky is the most talented of the Jordans and is in peak physical shape right now...Ethan Smith is very good and is a stiff challenge, but my money is on Rocky)
184: Gavin Hoffman (easy pick here, Gavin looked excellent in his redshirt year and notched huge victories...the former #1 ranked wrestler is ready for a big year and I think he contends to get on the podium right away)
197: Kollin Moore (obviously his spot and I think he finally wins it all in his senior campaign)
Hwt: Chase Singletary (I honestly struggled to call this one, Kerkvliet may take the spot, as he is one of the best HS wrestlers I've seen... Chase needs to put on about 20-30 pounds to compete at a high level with his style, so we'll see what happens)
- This might be the most entertaining wrestle offs we've seen at Ohio State. There is serious competition at almost every weight this year, and our roster is chalked full of talent. Can't wait to get the season started!
That being said, I expect a really good season and think our young guys stepping into the lineup should shine. My updated predicted lineup:
125: Jacob Decatur (unless Malik has developed significantly in gaining weight and strength, Decatur takes his spot imo)
133: Luke Pletcher (I have Luke making finals in his senior year, hope he can pull it off)
141: Quinn Kinner (looked great wrestling unattached in his freshman year and will be ready to take the next step... think he can make some noise at NCAAs... will get good competition in the room from Stickley and D'Emilio)
149: Sammy Sasso (Sasso looked phenomenal in his redshirt year and notched some huge wins, almost beat Mic Jordan multiple times...Sasso is one of our next stars, book it now... also will get challenged by Mattox, though Mattox could bump up to challenge Hayes
157: Ke-Shawn Hayes (he really needs to step it up this year and add some muscle... have to have Hayes high up on the podium this year at NCAAs to get the title... he has the talent, just needs to put it together)
165: Carson Kharchla (shocker alert for the true freshman over Romero, I know...Kharchla is the whole package and could honestly compete for the title immediately, he's that good... Romero has not looked remotely impressive thus far and I don't see him hanging with Kharchla unfortunately... fortunately it's a major roster upgrade imo)
174: Rocky Jordan (shocker update number 2... what is RB07OSU doing?...well, when healthy, Rocky is the most talented of the Jordans and is in peak physical shape right now...Ethan Smith is very good and is a stiff challenge, but my money is on Rocky)
184: Gavin Hoffman (easy pick here, Gavin looked excellent in his redshirt year and notched huge victories...the former #1 ranked wrestler is ready for a big year and I think he contends to get on the podium right away)
197: Kollin Moore (obviously his spot and I think he finally wins it all in his senior campaign)
Hwt: Chase Singletary (I honestly struggled to call this one, Kerkvliet may take the spot, as he is one of the best HS wrestlers I've seen... Chase needs to put on about 20-30 pounds to compete at a high level with his style, so we'll see what happens)
- This might be the most entertaining wrestle offs we've seen at Ohio State. There is serious competition at almost every weight this year, and our roster is chalked full of talent. Can't wait to get the season started!
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calibuck
Too soon old, too late smart
I may have been asleep under a rock, but is the transfer portal available to sports other than football? Don't seem to recollect reading that anywhere, so no? Sounds like tOSU lineup is loaded with potential, but mostly unproven. Hard to shine when there's a 3x B10 champ ahead of you. Cannot believe that just because a backup wins in the wrestling room, the coach will put him in a critical match. Anyway, it will be fun to watch this edition of the matsters. PS, didn't read 'why' Kyle was going to train at PSU.....and concur, downer for recruiting.
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I'm actually not sure on the transfer portal, but I would anticipate some transfers after this season. We've stacked up a ton of talent from 125-157, and we'll be 3 deep at several weights. Obviously a good problem to have and it'll sort itself out in the room. Can't recall the last time we've had so many legitimately contested roster spots. While so of the talent is not yet proven, the good news is that recruiting rankings in wrestling are pretty darn reliable. And our RS freshmen class beat some highly ranked opponents last year (particularly Sasso, Hoffman and Kinner), so I expect them to compete right away.
On Snyder, he says it's to change it up and challenge himself. There may be some credence to that after his recent loss. The pessimist says $$$. Either way, hope it doesn't hurt 'crootin too bad, particularly at the upper weights. Having Snyder at the RTC in Columbus was a huge recruiting draw.
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Welp, already wrong on 125 lol. Decatur lost to a walk on in the first round. Other notable updates is that Kinner spanked a very good Stickley 10-0 at 141 and will face Pletcher in the finals. Rocky Jordan destroyed a pretty decent Fritz Schierl 13-0 and goes on to face Romero for the 174 spot.
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Internet preseason rankings are in. Here are where our Buckeyes sit:
125: #18 Heinselmann (this is fair...he can climb if he's added some bulk)
133: NR (not surprised, but J. Decatur could always push his way into the rankings, very talented freshmen... wish Pletcher could have stayed at 133 to make way for Kinner at 141)
141: #3 Pletcher (TONS of medical redshirts at this weight... put Dom Demas and Nick Lee ahead of Luke...I say Luke is the tops)
149: #8 Sasso (I get not ranking the freshman too high but looking at the field, I legitimately think Sammy could win the title at this weight...I think he lands higher than 8 though)
157: #6 Hayes (fair imo... but I think he could end up as high as #3)
165: NR (no reason to rank Romero, who I think gets beat by Kharchla... and then Kharchla climbs up the ranks fast)
174 #13 Smith (about right, but there's a chance imo that Rocky beats him out and ends up higher)
184: NR (a little surprised Hoffman wasn't ranked even though he's a freshman, but I would anticipate he climbs in there quickly)
197: #1 Moore (kind of a no brainer... but Kyle Conel, who beat him twice at NCAAs in Cleveland, lingers at #3...what's more, I didn't realize he transferred to Ped State...needs to figure out how to beat him)
HWT: #12 Singletary (can't fault the ranking, but Chase has beaten or come very close to beating plenty of guys ahead of him... think he can climb up quickly)
125: #18 Heinselmann (this is fair...he can climb if he's added some bulk)
133: NR (not surprised, but J. Decatur could always push his way into the rankings, very talented freshmen... wish Pletcher could have stayed at 133 to make way for Kinner at 141)
141: #3 Pletcher (TONS of medical redshirts at this weight... put Dom Demas and Nick Lee ahead of Luke...I say Luke is the tops)
149: #8 Sasso (I get not ranking the freshman too high but looking at the field, I legitimately think Sammy could win the title at this weight...I think he lands higher than 8 though)
157: #6 Hayes (fair imo... but I think he could end up as high as #3)
165: NR (no reason to rank Romero, who I think gets beat by Kharchla... and then Kharchla climbs up the ranks fast)
174 #13 Smith (about right, but there's a chance imo that Rocky beats him out and ends up higher)
184: NR (a little surprised Hoffman wasn't ranked even though he's a freshman, but I would anticipate he climbs in there quickly)
197: #1 Moore (kind of a no brainer... but Kyle Conel, who beat him twice at NCAAs in Cleveland, lingers at #3...what's more, I didn't realize he transferred to Ped State...needs to figure out how to beat him)
HWT: #12 Singletary (can't fault the ranking, but Chase has beaten or come very close to beating plenty of guys ahead of him... think he can climb up quickly)
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Rocky looks ENORMOUS. Amazing to think I used to carry that kid on my shoulders as a toddler and fake wrestle him. Definitely wouldn't want to actually wrestle him now lol.
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Got some more nuggets and I'm sworn to secrecy here.... but this is the most talent we've ever had on a roster when considering each weight. Ohio State is going to whoop some ass this year, get ready. Wish I could fully disclose what I was told today. But suffice it to say that we're going to destroy it this year.
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To say the results of the wrestle off finals were dramatic is an understatement:
125: Malik won comfortably over Lucas 7-2. He should control that spot for the year and very happy for him.
133: Decatur smoked his guy 13-4. Could light it up his true freshman year.
141: Luke handled Kinner fairly easily at 7-3. Thought it might be tighter, but good job Luke.
149: Sasso blasted his guy and almost teched him. Likely the next superstar of our program.
157: In a complete shocker, Elijah Cleary beat Mattox 4-2 in OT. No idea how that happened, but Hayes will man that spot regardless.
165: Kharchla beat Smith 3-2. Called that one, but that's a really big deal for Carson. Smith is a stud.
174: Rocky indeed did take out Romero, but 2-1 in a tiebreaker. Didn't expect it to be that close, but happy for Rocky to land the spot.
184: Hoffman lost to Steiner 5-4 in what has to be the biggest head scratcher of the night. I expect Hoffman to take this spot back, but really curious result here.
197: Kollin teched his guy, no surprise.
HWT: No wrestle off since Singletary and Kerkvliet are wrestling internationally. When they do square off, that'll be fun to watch.
Summary: These guys wrestle each other every day and that tends to lead to close results. Can't wait to see them open up when the season starts.
125: Malik won comfortably over Lucas 7-2. He should control that spot for the year and very happy for him.
133: Decatur smoked his guy 13-4. Could light it up his true freshman year.
141: Luke handled Kinner fairly easily at 7-3. Thought it might be tighter, but good job Luke.
149: Sasso blasted his guy and almost teched him. Likely the next superstar of our program.
157: In a complete shocker, Elijah Cleary beat Mattox 4-2 in OT. No idea how that happened, but Hayes will man that spot regardless.
165: Kharchla beat Smith 3-2. Called that one, but that's a really big deal for Carson. Smith is a stud.
174: Rocky indeed did take out Romero, but 2-1 in a tiebreaker. Didn't expect it to be that close, but happy for Rocky to land the spot.
184: Hoffman lost to Steiner 5-4 in what has to be the biggest head scratcher of the night. I expect Hoffman to take this spot back, but really curious result here.
197: Kollin teched his guy, no surprise.
HWT: No wrestle off since Singletary and Kerkvliet are wrestling internationally. When they do square off, that'll be fun to watch.
Summary: These guys wrestle each other every day and that tends to lead to close results. Can't wait to see them open up when the season starts.
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WRESTLING: OHIO STATE ESTABLISHES NEW BLACK SHIRT TRADITION AHEAD OF 201
In the world of martial arts, receiving a black belt requires hundreds of hours of training, along with years of dedication and sacrifices.
In Ohio State wrestling this season, that same level of dedication and accomplishment will be represented by a black shirt that shows the wearer is a great wrestler and leader.
Wrestlers can be nominated for the award by any team member. In order to be awarded a black shirt, nominees must receive unanimous approval from the coaching staff and all current black shirt holders, Ross said.
“As much tradition we have of winning, there’s not a tradition of things that embrace the process of getting to success,” strength coach Riley Ross, originator of the black shirt tradition, said. “It’s the concept of ‘arete,’ which is a Greek word that they grasped as ‘virtue.’ It was a holistic level of excellence that they really believed was possible within the human being.”
Ross said his background working with professional fighters and jiu-jitsu practitioners showed him how important the black belt is to that culture and played a large part in choosing the color black for the team’s new tradition.
“The significance of a black belt within that culture is that all the other colors, if you blended them together, would essentially turn black, and black covers all the sweat and all the blood,” Ross said. “Black embodies that toughness that should be ingrained in them by the time they get that black shirt.”
The black shirt is exactly like the other outer shirts the wrestlers wear, sweat absorbent and lightweight, but they are a black version of the standard gray, team-issued T-shirts, Ross said.
“In the future, we will have ones that commemorate the year the wrestler obtained their black shirts along with a new logo,” Ross said. “Graphic design is working on that currently.”
Head coach Tom Ryan said he was immediately on board with the idea when it was presented to him and the coaching staff by Ross this past offseason in a staff meeting and thinks it will be good for program culture. Ryan said it will take the “elite of the elite” to receive a black shirt, and wrestlers must meet certain criteria to have the chance to don the shirt.
“You cannot get a black shirt just because you’re a straight-A student, do 10 hours of community service, are a great example to your community, and you pick people up when they’re down,” Ryan said. “The only way to get a black shirt is to be a savage.”
Entire article: https://www.thelantern.com/2019/10/...shes-new-black-shirt-tradition-ahead-of-2019/
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