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Game Thread Ohio State 33, Washington 14 (Final)

Jaxbuck;881817; said:
I keep seeing the UW faithful say that run D is their strong suit but I wonder if it isn't a case of a teams pass D being so bad no one took the good time and effort to run it down their throat consistently?

I have a hard time buying that as well. Looking at their front seven in the preseason mags, they bring back 4 starters. Two ends, a Soph that goes 6'4, 245 lbs and a Sr. that goes 6'5, 265. One returning starter at Tackle, a Sr. that goes 6'3, 290 with the new projected starter another Sr. at 6'6 295. That's some good size inside, but the ends are smallish. They return one LB starter from a year ago, but their OLB are undersized at 215 and 225 lbs respectively. There's not a lot of depth either. The top second string ends go 245 and 242 and the backup LB's are young and small. If we can grind it out, that will become a major issue for the Huskies.

We are gonna have a mammoth OL not to mention a bruising 225-230 lb running back. I think we'll very simply overpower them on the ground. Hopefully that will open up the pass enough to give us a fairly comfortable win. I don't know. Early season games with so many new pieces are hard to call, but I think we win somewhere in the neighborhood of 27-14.
 
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In the 2 years that Tyrone Willingham has had to steer the Washington football Program they have shown some improvement in Defensive statistics - but it is incremental to this point.
Looking at Yards per game (or points ppg for Scoring Defense) and rank
Category -- 2006 (rank) --- 2005
Rushing D - 139.6 (r-66) --- 143.4 (r-49)
Passing D - 240.17 (r102) -- 275.7 (r-106)
Total Def - 379.75 (r-95) -- 419.09 (r-94)
Scoring D - 23.1 p (r-62) -- 30.9 (r-89)

On offense their time of possession also showed a positive shift .. 2006 they held the ball on average 29:12 (ranked 82nd in nation), an increase over their 2005 offense of 27:47 and a 109th national ranking. Despite which their Scoring Offense remained questionable 2006 r-76 21.83 ppg, 2005 r-90 21.55 ppg. In both years their Offensive rankings (rush, pass total) were squarely in or near the bottom 2/3rd rankings 2005 69th 358 ypg, 2006, 74th rank 321.75 ypg.
The only manner in which one could describe Rush D as a strength is a relative one - and the numbers do show a weak to porous secondary, so it is likelier that opponents feasted on an obvious weakness, than that Washington made teams one-dimensional.
Also, consider that their ability to stop the run (using those over-sized "safety" LBs) is colored by the style of running back popular in the Pac-10. Lighter, possibly running sweeps and end-arounds this demands exactly the kind of speedy, lighter-weight LB Washington seems to employ. Being able to go sideline to sideline is likely a strength.

But bruise them inside or between the tackles and I bet they are very vulnerable. For which you need a big back - like Chris Wells.
Get them hurting and put in the scat back - break past the first line and big gainers become possible?

Perhaps that is what the better running teams in the PAC-10 did in 2006, like Oregon (316 net yds gained), Arizona State and Cal netted 190 and 195 yards respectively. I would say our stable of RBs this year measures up very well against those of Oregon, Az. State or (Lynch recognized) Cal.
Most instructive is how Jonathan Stewart ate up their rush D for 159 yards last year as Oregon rolled up 316 net yards on the ground - for Stewart and Wells share a lot of physical characteristics. He is that rare beast - a bruising Pac-10 rusher.

Unless Ty has a magic wand to invigorate his team's defense, I think this game goes like the Buckeyes in Norman Oklahoma with Mike T at the helm - grind 'em down and punish them all day.
 
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2 months from today we find out

The longer I've had to think about it, I think we'll be able to run on them pretty well. If our offense doesn't have TO's we should be fine.
 
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"Looking at their front seven in the preseason mags, they bring back 4 starters. Two ends, a Soph that goes 6'4, 245 lbs and a Sr. that goes 6'5, 265."
About the same size as Florida's DEs!

Watch the Huskies try to "Gator" us with a similar game plan.
Fast run stuffing defense. Don't give up a lot of big plays.
Use the QB as another runner and eat up the clock. Controlled passing game.
 
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Yeah for real! Florida has just a bit better athletes to pick from. One thing is for sure our offense should be one of the better running teams in the conference if not the nation (depending on if the passing game can take pressure off them). I think this game being 3rd in order for the year will give the QB, whoever that may be, some timing and confidence going into a game with the huskies. I think we beat this team 27-10 with the ground game coming out hot and then the QB putting a dagger in them late with a 30 or so yard strike through the air! I guess I should look this up in the pages but how good is this QB they have?
 
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Taosman;882240; said:
"Looking at their front seven in the preseason mags, they bring back 4 starters. Two ends, a Soph that goes 6'4, 245 lbs and a Sr. that goes 6'5, 265."
About the same size as Florida's DEs!

Watch the Huskies try to "Gator" us with a similar game plan.
Fast run stuffing defense. Don't give up a lot of big plays.
Use the QB as another runner and eat up the clock. Controlled passing game.


Not to get way off topic but we were "gatored" in large part due to the predictability of the offense and the injury to Ginn.

UF's ends were fast but anyones ends look fast when they know your throwing every down and can't hurt them deep.

If for some odd reason we came out in the spread at UW, never made them respect the run or the deep ball and just tried to dink and dunk them to death from shotgun, its going to make their DE's look a lot better than they probably are.

Back to UW, they aren't in UF's galaxy as far as talent goes regardless of our gameplan.
 
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But, it's a new season, and we have a brand new QB. 2 new starting WRs.

Probably a different style of offense. More conservative.

And we're traveling all the way to the west coast.

And we have lost the last couple times we've played in that stadium.

And they have circled this game on their schedule because we're a name team on national tv.
 
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Taosman;882447; said:
But, it's a new season, and we have a brand new QB. 2 new starting WRs.

Probably a different style of offense. More conservative.

And we're traveling all the way to the west coast.

And we have lost the last couple times we've played in that stadium.

And they have circled this game on their schedule because we're a name team on national tv.

To answer your concerns in order:

1) This is college football. These things happen.
2) Again, college football.
3) College football, travel happens.
4) Can't live in the past...
5) We're Ohio State. Who doesn't circle their calendar when they play us?

Stop worrying! :biggrin:
 
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Taosman;882447; said:
But, it's a new season, and we have a brand new QB. 2 new starting WRs.

Both Robo and Hartline had enough PT last year to where the jump up to starter won't be a big deal...and they'll have already had a couple games as "starter" under the belts when they arrive in Seattle.
 
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Taosman;882447; said:
But, it's a new season, and we have a brand new QB. 2 new starting WRs.

Considering Hartline caught the first pass on the first play of the season last year against NIU, I'm going to go ahead and consider him a returning starter. :biggrin: I would imagine that there were other games that he technically "started". Same goes for Robiskie.
 
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Hartline: 17 catches, 256 yards (15.1 ypc), 2 TDs
Robiskie: 29 catches, 383 yards (13.2 ypc), 5 TDs

Between the two, they have 46 catches for 669 yards (13.9 ypc) and 7 TDs. Not too bad for "backups". Keep in mind their numbers were skewed by the presence of two 1st-round WRs...
 
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