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Game Thread Ohio State 27, Iowa 24 (final, OT, 11/14/09) - Rose Bowl bound!!!

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NUTS4theBUCKS28 said:
i dont know why people like mark may are even giving iowa a chance at winning this game...so what they have a "good" defense, who have they played, seriously? there is no way a backup quaterback like vandenburg can even play well against us the way he played against northwestern.
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Iowa has beaten Penn State and Arizona. They played some creampuffs and barely won, but they also played some pretty strong teams and won as well. They beat Penn State and Arizona with defense.

I think it will be tough for Vandenberg, but I think it's ignorant to say there is "NO WAY" he can play well or there is NO WAY we lose this game. I've witnessed hundreds of OSU football games, and the only thing that I know to be 100% true is that ANYTHING can happen.

One thing my dad taught me is that there is no such thing as a 'sure thing'. I'm confident. I think our D-line will dominate. I think our offense will protect the ball and have a good game plan that will expose Iowa's weaknesses on defense. I don't think their offense will be able to do the same. I think we will win. But Iowa still is 9-1...and Stanzi wasn't THAT great anyway. People are turning him into a God. He did have a lot of comebacks, but most of them were because he put his team in that position with poor decisions and poor play in the first place. Iowa's defense has kept them in EVERY game this year. That defense is healthy, and will play their hearts out with nothing left to lose.

I think Iowa can win this game...it's no slam dunk. But with that said, I don't think they are going to be able to do it. I think our defense is going to score some points for us, and we are going to pull away in the second half.

Ohio State 31
Iowa 7
 
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I know this sounds stupid but I tend to think the extra work in practice isn't all that much of a difference. I tend to believe that when a QB comes in cold into a game they actually usually fair about the same due to not having time to think about the difficulties facing them. They just have to go out there and do it leaving them not much of a mental factor through the week worrying about the what ifs etc. Cousins from MSU last year for example or the guy from Wisconsin in 2003 also comes to mind. I dont believe the extra work will help him much to be honest.

That said this game still worries me thats for sure. We've struggled against worse teams than this and we've lost to worse teams than this. If the boys come out and put up some points early then I doubt they'll have much of an answer, but if we let them hang around it could get interesting.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;1591878; said:
Our loss was on the road...Iowa's was at home. Significant difference. Also, since our loss at Purdue, both our defense and offense--but especially the defense--has been playing "pissed off". Fifth straight Big Ten title and a Rose Bowl bid are the chum in the bloody water tomorrow...check for dorsal fins on Heyward, Gibson, and Williams.
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Except that they haven't played a snap since their loss, so their 'pissed off' parallel would be this week. :biggrin:
 
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Iowa's defense has been excellent against the pass and not too bad against the run. Their defensive performance has relied on an offense that has controlled the clock. Last week, Northwestern won the time of possession battle by about ten minutes. Prior to that, Iowa averaged a time of possession advantage of more than five minutes a game versus their average opponents.

Stanzi nailed a 74 yard completion in the first quarter for Iowa's only touchdown last week. He added 60 yards to that total in the first quarter on three more completions.

Northwestern's D-line looked good against Iowa's O-line and penetrated twice in a row to force the Stanzi fumble and injury on the touchdown. The reverse was not true. Iowa had trouble running the ball and only put up 65 yards rushing against Northwestern.

Vandenberg was 9 of 27 for 82 yards against Northwestern and he looked flustered under pressure against Northwestern. .

I still think that we lost to Purdue because the defense had been on the field so long in the Wisky game. I think Iowa's D will fade badly in the second half. As a measure of what could happen: Northwestern enjoyed a 70%-30% time of possession after Stanzi was injured. If Ohio State replicated that, they would hold onto the ball 42 minutes to Iowa's 18 minutes

So, Iowa has more problems on offense than just Stanzi's injury. A freshman quarterback who looked pretty bad and no real rushing attack against one of the best defenses in the country. Iowa rank outside the top 30 on rushing defense.

Ohio State's Pryor remains a work in progress, even in a good game last week. However, Iowa has a defense that is not overwhelming against the run and Ohio State has a dangerous rushing quarterback and is spoiled for excellence at the running back position.

Pryor could get more on the ground than in the air. The running backs will have a fun second half. The Silver Bullets will get three turnovers and shut down Iowa down until two field goals late in the game when Ohio State puts some seniors on the field for their last game in the Shoe.

Ferentz is not Tressel.

Ohio State 31 Iowa 6
 
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I still think that we lost to Purdue because the defense had been on the field so long in the Wisky game.
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Or the fact they were put in a terrible spot by turnovers all game long. I also think as fans we underestimated the effects of the flu that was going through the team that week. It was really a perfect storm.

If the Bucks play a smart first half and makes Iowa sustain long drives of 60 + yards to score this game could get ugly in a heartbeat but my reservations are still with the offense and its consistency of not turning the ball over.

The game will not be in doubt but maybe a closer score then some think.

Hoping to bust out the Roses tomorrow!!!
 
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Steve19;1591941; said:
Pryor could get more on the ground than in the air. The running backs will have a fun second half. The Silver Bullets will get three turnovers and shut down Iowa down until two field goals late in the game when Ohio State puts some seniors on the field for their last game in the Shoe.

Ferentz is not Tressel.

Ohio State 31 Iowa 6
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i could see us running a lot of wildcat rather than pryor with him being gimpy. 2 turf toes, an ankle and a knee with scum a week away? i think we try to out talent iowa. this will be a get healthy game for all the marbles.

24 - 10 is my guess.
 
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NateG;1591606; said:
Northern Iowa/Indiana/Northwestern all won the time of possesion battle. UNI/IND won by small portions(31:56/30:19) but Northwestern took over the time of possesion and dominated the end of the game(34:20). They also had 1 turnover compared to Iowa's 4. The TOP also includes back to back possession on the fumble by Stanzi picked up for a touchdown. Northwestern started the second half with drives of 4 min, 3min, 4min while Iowa's first second half drives were 3:25, 1:40, 2:55. Northwestern had the ball for 18:27 in the second half. That has to be a knock on the D knowing that running the clock was a main objective in the fourth. 24 runs to 17 pass attempts in second half.
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Steve19;1591941; said:
Iowa's defense has been excellent against the pass and not too bad against the run. Their defensive performance has relied on an offense that has controlled the clock. Last week, Northwestern won the time of possession battle by about ten minutes. Prior to that, Iowa averaged a time of possession advantage of more than five minutes a game versus their average opponents.

Stanzi nailed a 74 yard completion in the first quarter for Iowa's only touchdown last week. He added 60 yards to that total in the first quarter on three more completions.

Northwestern's D-line looked good against Iowa's O-line and penetrated twice in a row to force the Stanzi fumble and injury on the touchdown. The reverse was not true. Iowa had trouble running the ball and only put up 65 yards rushing against Northwestern.

Vandenberg was 9 of 27 for 82 yards against Northwestern and he looked flustered under pressure against Northwestern. .

I still think that we lost to Purdue because the defense had been on the field so long in the Wisky game. I think Iowa's D will fade badly in the second half. As a measure of what could happen: Northwestern enjoyed a 70%-30% time of possession after Stanzi was injured. If Ohio State replicated that, they would hold onto the ball 42 minutes to Iowa's 18 minutes

So, Iowa has more problems on offense than just Stanzi's injury. A freshman quarterback who looked pretty bad and no real rushing attack against one of the best defenses in the country. Iowa rank outside the top 30 on rushing defense.

Ohio State's Pryor remains a work in progress, even in a good game last week. However, Iowa has a defense that is not overwhelming against the run and Ohio State has a dangerous rushing quarterback and is spoiled for excellence at the running back position.

Pryor could get more on the ground than in the air. The running backs will have a fun second half. The Silver Bullets will get three turnovers and shut down Iowa down until two field goals late in the game when Ohio State puts some seniors on the field for their last game in the Shoe.

Ferentz is not Tressel.

Ohio State 31 Iowa 6
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Great minds think alike!

NateG;1591520; said:
Well the way you have to measure this is compared to the team's average.

Wisconsin-29.56(42nd)- vs Iowa - 10 = -19.56
Arizona-32.25(22nd)- vs Iowa - 17 = - 15.25
Iowa State-21.20(99th)- vs Iowa - 3 = - 18.25
Mich State-30.10(37th)- vs Iowa - 13 = - 16.90
Penn State-28.30(52nd)- vs Iowa - 10 = - 18.30

average of those 5 games is -17.65

so hypothetically you could remove that from OSU's average points and find their possible point total : 30.30-17.65= 12.65....13 points

Then if you do the same with OSU's opponents of higher ranks... USC, Wisconsin, Penn St, Navy, Minnesota. Average point differential... 13.44. Subtracted from Iowa's average points... 24.10.
24.10-13.44=10.66... 11 points.

So the game on paper looks like 13-11.

Add that Iowa has not faced a QB like Pryor and OSU has dominated teams against the run(considering alot will not be put on Vanderburg). It changes the statistical breakdown. If you look at the run/pass breakdown, Iowa would be considered more of a passing team(94th in rushing). Take out the leader of that attack, and you are significantly dropping that stat(230 per gm-47th/ efficiency-79th). OSU and Iowa have great pass defenses especially in causing efficiency problems. If Iowa's defense missteps at all it could get ugly. Turnovers give edge to OSU. Iowa 2.1 turnovers per game with Stanzi. OSU 1.6 per game.

I predict that it won't be as big of a blowout as most project, but it will be a comfortable win. OSU will force some turnovers, probably more than Iowa's average(3 +) and it could open up the offense. If the defense can put a mobile QB like Clark into bad positions to throw and almost forced 4 turnovers(3 by homan, 1 by Chimdi). Plus the factor of a first start Frosh coming to the shoe that turns into a night game feel in the second half.

So all that to say...

OSU 28 - Iowa 6.
Roses in mouths,
Carmen Ohio surrounded by fans,
Trip to the Whorehouse for the outright title.
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I don't want to get ahead of myself, just seeking clarification. Why is everyone saying that this win will for sure get a Rose Bowl bid?

I know that we would win the Big Ten and get an auto BCS bid with a win, but is there a new rule now in the BCS that the Rose Bowl will take the winner of the Big Ten and Pac Ten? Couldn't the Fiesta also be a possibility? Just wondering if there's a rule now that Rose will be B10 vs P10..

That being said, GO BUCKS!!! Let's get a repeat of last week's performance, no time to step off the gas here.
 
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Buckeye_Fan_BCS;1592041; said:
I don't want to get ahead of myself, just seeking clarification. Why is everyone saying that this win will for sure get a Rose Bowl bid?

I know that we would win the Big Ten and get an auto BCS bid with a win, but is there a new rule now in the BCS that the Rose Bowl will take the winner of the Big Ten and Pac Ten? Couldn't the Fiesta also be a possibility? Just wondering if there's a rule now that Rose will be B10 vs P10..

That being said, GO BUCKS!!! Let's get a repeat of last week's performance, no time to step off the gas here.
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Rose Bowl ALWAYS takes Big Ten #1 and Pac Ten #1...that's just the tradition. It's been that way for years.
 
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martinss01;1591963; said:
i could see us running a lot of wildcat rather than pryor with him being gimpy. 2 turf toes, an ankle and a knee with scum a week away? i think we try to out talent iowa. this will be a get healthy game for all the marbles.

24 - 10 is my guess.
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We're going to beat you into submission Hawkeyes. No mercy. Sweep the leg. I'm gonna get you sucka. Beatdown. 23-0.
 
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