Official Cleveland Browns Draft Thread

[sandgk]

In defense of Quinn:

Many times ND lost games under Weis' not because of Quinn's bad passing game, but rather because of excruciatingly poor secondary coverage.

 

[Smooth Olaf]

If anyone here thinks Quinn is the answer long term, they are just crazy.... I watched his games.

So did Savage and Crennel. Quinn is a far superior pro prospect than Charlie Frye. Yeah, Quinn didn't really beat anyone while at ND, but who did Frye beat while at Akron? Ohio State fans don't like Notre Dame, and that's understandable, but if you take off the scarlet and grey for a moment and put on the orange and brown, how can you NOT love this draft? This time last year, I was not excited after the draft even though we addressed holes at linebacker. We still entered last year with holes along the offensive line, defensive backfield, and with the worst quarterback trio in the league. This year, the offensive line is vastly improved, the defensive backfield is improved (though still not where I'm comfortable), and the long term quarterback situation has a chance to be solved. This year's schedule is also a lot easier than last year's, so the pick we gave up for Quinn might not be too bad.

Browns Fan should look at this weekend as a positive. I know I am.

 

[lvbuckeye]

Quinn was a late first round pick at 22 yes. But he is not late first round caliber. That is the point. He's top ten caliber and the Browns get to have him a year early. If the Browns have a terrible record next year and their top ten pick goes to Cowboys, so what! They already got a top ten caliber player for next years number one pick in Brady Quinn this year. All it cost was a second round pick and then they traded back into this year's second round anyway and got a corner who is probably just as good if not better than Leon Hall who went to the Bengals in the first round.

I prefer my team going out and getting the players they want rather than just sitting still waiting to see who might fall in their lap. Brady Quinn equates to what would have been the Browns' 2008 Top 10 pick. It's academic. Put down the beer and ponder on it for a minute or two.

It was a good deal for the Browns and a good deal for the Cowboys because yes they will probably get a top ten next year. Consider this. Even though the Browns picked him at number 22, the Browns essentially got two top ten picks this year when you consider the quality of the two players (Thomas and Quinn). You could actually consider them two top five picks but why be greedy.

Also, in 2008 if there is a player in the first round that the Browns really want, what is there to keep them from trading 2009's number one to go get that guy. In fact, what if the Browns continually from now on trade into the first round in that fashion every year trading the first round pick for the following year. The Browns can be America's team living on credit racking up debt that they never intend to pay off!!! It doesn't get anymore American than that!!!!

Go Browns!!!!!

i think that the Browns did a pretty good job and all, but BQ is NOT a top ten pick. he never was, and he never will be. he's a decent QB, but he received top ten hype. there's a difference.

 

[OH10]

So did Savage and Crennel. Quinn is a far superior pro prospect than Charlie Frye. Yeah, Quinn didn't really beat anyone while at ND, but who did Frye beat while at Akron? Ohio State fans don't like Notre Dame, and that's understandable, but if you take off the scarlet and grey for a moment and put on the orange and brown, how can you NOT love this draft? This time last year, I was not excited after the draft even though we addressed holes at linebacker. We still entered last year with holes along the offensive line, defensive backfield, and with the worst quarterback trio in the league. This year, the offensive line is vastly improved, the defensive backfield is improved (though still not where I'm comfortable), and the long term quarterback situation has a chance to be solved. This year's schedule is also a lot easier than last year's, so the pick we gave up for Quinn might not be too bad.

Browns Fan should look at this weekend as a positive. I know I am.

As I said before, I loved the Thomas and Wright picks. But the Quinn seems sort of baffling. How can the team decide on Friday that they feel comfortable with the quarterback situation this year enough to pass on Quinn and then get desperate on draft day and trade away a top-10 pick for next year?

That's confusing. By drafting Thomas, the Browns were saying that they know their quarterbacks need more protection. If they get more protection, maybe we know more about what kind of ability they possess. I still see in Frye a lot of physical capabilities, and I'm waiting for him to pick up his mental game. Maybe with more time in the pocket, he'll show the complete package I believe he posesses.

When it's all said and done, I just want to know if people are going to give Quinn the same short timespan to make an impact as you have Frye.

 

[jwinslow]

As I said before, I loved the Thomas and Wright picks. But the Quinn seems sort of baffling. How can the team decide on Friday that they feel comfortable with the quarterback situation this year enough to pass on Quinn and then get desperate on draft day and trade away a top-10 pick for next year?

Perhaps they seem themselves being at 15 next year with actual protection for QB, and time for KWII & Braylon to get open.

Quinn may also prove to be a valuable commodity down the road. He has strong potential... and if they're fortunate and don't need him (ie Frye improves), they'll likely get a first round pick in compensation for Quinn's services.

 

[Mike80]

Perhaps they seem themselves being at 15 next year with actual protection for QB, and time for KWII & Braylon to get open.

Quinn may also prove to be a valuable commodity down the road. He has strong potential... and if they're fortunate and don't need him (ie Frye improves), they'll likely get a first round pick in compensation for Quinn's services.

I don't know if that's a good way to look at things. Hoping to get a first rounder in a trade when you've already traded another first-rounder?

And who is going to be the running back next year? I don't think it'll be Jamal Lewis....

As I've said, there were a lot of holes to be filled and the Browns filled 2 with essentially 4 picks....

 

[OH10]

Perhaps they seem themselves being at 15 next year with actual protection for QB, and time for KWII & Braylon to get open.

Quinn may also prove to be a valuable commodity down the road. He has strong potential... and if they're fortunate and don't need him (ie Frye improves), they'll likely get a first round pick in compensation for Quinn's services.

In the division they play in, that's an awful big gamble to assume 15. Frye is still going to have to go through progressions, and while Thomas will be an upgrade, he's not likely to be a Pro-Bowler next year.

Ultimately, the future of this franchise is on the shoulders of Brady Quinn. They didn't trade a first-round pick for a glorified backup. And I'm sorry if I don't feel all that comfortable with Quinn as the future of the Browns. I wasn't before the draft, and I'm not anymore now just because he fell to 22nd in the draft.

 

[Buckin' A]

Taking the #2 QB in the draft is not desperation, given the current quarterbacks on their roster....it is a no brainer in my opinion. They didn't reach for Wright, he was a projected second round pick, they took him in the third round. I think they addressed the secondary taking two corners, fill in the defensive line with a few FA and they will be greatly improved.

After years of bad picks, how can any fan of the Browns complain? I am amazed some people are critical of their draft......

I'm in your camp. It was nice to see them get aggressive and make something happen. The old formula wasn't working.

 

[jwinslow]

I don't know if that's a good way to look at things. Hoping to get a first rounder in a trade when you've already traded another first-rounder?

I'm not saying that's why they drafted quinn... merely that it could work out well even if he never starts.

And who is going to be the running back next year? I don't think it'll be Jamal Lewis....

Peterson would be a risk at #3. I'm not sure if Irons is truly the answer... and obviously the NFL doesn't like Pittman at all.

If I were cleveland, I would have snagged Bush later in the draft.

 

[Cornerback6]

I thought the Brownies drafted very well aside Quinn. I'm sorry, I don't care if they're making things happen...they were doing that during FA anyway.

I really am high on Wright and Thomas. The rest of the draft was solid too, but I don't know how anyone who watched Brady Quinn play against one solid defense can stand up and say that he is worthy of a top 10 pick next year? Despite my hatred for ND, the guy does not perform against high competition...he never has. I am probably just crazy because the gurus love BQ. But then again, anyone who ignores Troy Smith because of one game (after what he did in a career)...with his 4.67 and quality bench, cannon arm and accurate reads (Pro Day 18/18), how in the world can you say BQ is that much better than Troy? Height? Troy has been throwing over a monstrous line his entire college life. Still baffled.

Bold prediction: 3 years, Troy (and the Ravens) is slaying Brady and our beloved Brownies on a regular basis.

 

[schwab]

No matter what Cleveland did they were going to get ripped for it. In a no-win situation, I can't believe they are getting slammed by people who call themselves fans. Like the damn Yogurt Shop says, there are 31 other flavors if you are so quick to jump camp fellas. I think Cleveland finally took the shrink-wrap off their penis and used it for once. Give it some time to work.

 

[Mike80]

Quinn: 'I'm the most prepared player for the NFL in the draft'

Exactly! The most prepared, if you are talking about the most likely to have already peaked, therefore prepared to underachieve!

I dealt with not having the Browns during the 4 years I was in HS. Such an age that you form many habits that will never go away. I stayed with a team that didn't even exist, and cried like a little girl when the Browns came back. Blood, sweat, tears, no team,...any fan of any other team, you have no idea....and I don't recommend trying it. Moving on....

If the Cleveland Browns select Brady Quinn with the 3rd pick in the NFL Draft this Saturday, then I guess I just don't know...

Change of heart Schwab??

apparently getting him at 22 was better with no first rounder next year or 2nd rounder this year (although they did trade later to get a 2nd rounder) instead of letting him fall to the Browns in the 2nd round anyway....

 

[schwab]

Change of heart Schwab??

apparently getting him at 22 was better with no first rounder next year or 2nd rounder this year (although they did trade later to get a 2nd rounder) instead of letting him fall to the Browns in the 2nd round anyway....

If you would go ahead and read the very last line of the exact paragraph you quoted of me one post ago, you will get your answer.

#3 Joe Thomas, T, Wisconsin

EDIT: and yes, 22 beats 3 any day of the week

 

[zBuckeye10z]

This is my first time posting on this thread b/c I am a fan of the Packers but I thought this was a good question and I figured to let you all Browns fans answer it....

During college football, we (Buckeye fans) all hated Brady Quinn. We all thought he was overrated, sucked, terrible, etc.. Now that he has been chosen by the Browns to step up and most likely lead the team, do you, as a Browns and a Buckeyes fan, now like Brady Quinn because he is the control of the Browns offense?

 

[Mike80]

If you would go ahead and read the very last line of the exact paragraph you quoted of me one post ago, you will get your answer.

#3 Joe Thomas, T, Wisconsin

That's fine.

I'll concentrate on the first line. Do you still believe that Quinn has "peaked" and is ready to "underachieve"?

Have you seen anything in recent weeks to suggest otherwise???