Official 2008 Stanley Cup Playoffs Discussion Thread

[3074326]

Haha, every hooking called in that period was pretty questionable, and that goes for both sides.

Crosby is flying around tonight. Philly is playing Malkin tough.. it's changing his game and that's worrisome.

At least Philly's goal was scored by a Buckeye. :p

 

[Mike80]

1-dunnot but usually when you expect it, it doesnt happen. reality is both teams know both guys threw cheap shoots. write it down it will be settled at some point...

Well when claude de bitch hit Draper, that didn't get settled until the following March. Long memories....

2-bad ice in dallas? the ice sucks there in jan, this time of the years its not ice, its slush...

It actually looked kinda chippy, like they'd tried something different. It didn't matter after the first Zamboni run though, the puddles of water in the corners were probably ankle deep :p

3-ever seen ron hainsey shoot? hainsey thinks you get 1 point for the dasher, 2 for the boards, 3 for glass 4 for the net...

Or Mikael Samuelsson

But actually I was talking about his lack of aim when checking. Brendan morrow had 30 hits last night but 28 of them were the boards instead of players

 

[BUCKYLE]

Nobody is ever going to win.. that's why I didn't want to do this in the first place. But I did. :(

I was referring to the game. Who won the game? I really want Detroit to win in four. I needs me some vcash.

 

[3074326]

lol, oh.

Detroit in four looks like a quality vBet.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

I didn't say I was right, I was telling you why I said what I said.

bullshit. you were telling me what I meant by what I said.

What Hobbes said is exactly what I've been saying this whole fucking time

bullshit. hobbes said exactly what I'VE been saying this whole fucking time. namely, that Ruutu and Avery are the same person. so there's really no logical reason for you to think that one of the players is a scar on the game, while the other is your good hard nosed awesome hockey player. especially when the one you dubbed as a scar on the game is the one who actually adds value to his team in the form of points. THAT'S the argument.

except that I assumed you didn't like Ruutu. And whether you like Ruutu or not is irrelevant.

bullshit. you did more than assume. you told me what I thought. that's pretty damn arrogant.

This argument started because you think Malkin is dirty and Avery isn't

bullshit.
no not really....I just like saying that. technically this line is true. the "malkin is dirty" was a joke, like when i said lundqvist should have butt ended him. he did pull some dirty shit that one game, but being a dirty hockey player is more than kicking somebodies leg out twice.

for unknown reasons to me, now we're discussing whether or not you like Ruutu and you're trying to pin an assumption I made against me(an assumption that I didn't think was unreasonable). Why are we even talking about whether you like Ruutu or not? It doesn't matter at all. If you don't like Ruutu, I'm sorry I assumed you did. Now let's bicker about what we were originally bickering about again.

there's a couple bullshits in there, but I'm busy watching the office. the reason we're discussing if I like ruutu or not is because of how adamant you were that i didn't. the argument probably shifted to him when I took your "scar on the game" comment about avery and ran with it. i probably did that because i don't really think malkin is all that dirty.

he is a punk ass bitch though.

 

[h0bb3s]

Pens now up 3-0, Pens put the defensive clamps on after a helter skelter 1st period, thanks to the refs calling anything even remotely resembling a hook. Downie again gave up the puck which directly lead to the Pens 3rd goal and pretty much took all the air out of them. Philly fans I'm sure want to string Downie up by his balls!

Detroit vs Pittsburgh in the finals. I saw some empty seats in Detroit, I wonder how hard it is to get tickets for the finals.

 

[3074326]

bullshit. you were telling me what I meant by what I said.
bullshit. hobbes said exactly what I'VE been saying this whole fucking time. namely, that Ruutu and Avery are the same person. so there's really no logical reason for you to think that one of the players is a scar on the game, while the other is your good hard nosed awesome hockey player. especially when the one you dubbed as a scar on the game is the one who actually adds value to his team in the form of points. THAT'S the argument.
bullshit. you did more than assume. you told me what I thought. that's pretty damn arrogant.
bullshit.
no not really....I just like saying that. technically this line is true. the "malkin is dirty" was a joke, like when i said lundqvist should have butt ended him. he did pull some dirty shit that one game, but being a dirty hockey player is more than kicking somebodies leg out twice.
there's a couple bullshits in there, but I'm busy watching the office. the reason we're discussing if I like ruutu or not is because of how adamant you were that i didn't. the argument probably shifted to him when I took your "scar on the game" comment about avery and ran with it. i probably did that because i don't really think malkin is all that dirty.

he is a punk ass bitch though.

I already apologized for assuming that you hated Ruutu. I still think it's irrelevant, but I was wrong on that and admitted it. I wasn't trying to offend you. I read too much into words sometimes and had reasons that justified my assumption. That's all I needed. Sorry, no offense intended with my assumption.

Now, here's hobb3s' post (minus the part about the Red Wings), and here is the post in which I tried to drive home my point (and a couple other small quotes). The stuff in my quotes not bolded are why I have a problem with Avery's game and not nearly as much a problem with Ruutu's game. The logic in my reasoning is based on the amount of stuff he's done over time that piss me off. I don't think Ruutu has done nearly as much. But that's just me.

Let's end this argument, I really don't have a problem with you and want it to stay that way.

Sean Avery and Ruutu have almost the same roles. They are their to piss off the opposing team and get them off their game. They are both pretty darn good at it too. One of the only differences is Avery scores more goals that Ruutu. They are both players that unless they are on your team, you do not like them. Also, both players play right on the edge of the rules, so some people consider them dirty players.

Malkin i would not consider a dirty player, I've seen him do some questionable things in the playoffs, but nothing that I have not seen opposing teams do to him and Crosby and not get called.

Avery puts himself out there for people. He's an intern at Vogue magazine. And he's a player who has done some dirty things in his career. That's a bad combination for hockey. The fact that you hadn't heard of Ruutu and you haven't heard of Laraque speaks volumes about the point I'm trying to make.

They do go out there to do essentially the same thing. I'm not debating that.. Avery and Ruutu have both made dirty hits. I'm not debating that, either. It's the stupid, worthless shit like waving your hands/stick in front of a goalies face, rather than actually playing the game, and starting fights then covering his hands over his head or skating away (seach Sean Avery on YouTube and you'll see that). Those make Avery the hated player that he is, rather than just another agitator. Like I said, Ruutu hasn't caused the NHL to change rules on the fly, and he hasn't caused the playoffs to make the front story on MSNBC.com for the wrong reasons.

Avery has had a negative imagine for a long time. He's done a lot more than score points.. that image didn't just randomly create itself all of a sudden.

(That's a backhanded compliment)

Like I said, Malkin had some cheap shots in the NYR series. But that doesn't make him a dirty player. If it continues in every series, every game, then I might be saying something a little different here.

If you don't like Ruutu, I'm sorry I assumed you did.

EDIT: I thought hobb3s made this post, but everything I just typed doesn't change too much..

Uh, take a look back at his penalties for the season, you'll see alot of high sticking, slashing, cross check and misconducts for that turd. You've not seen enough of Malkin to call him dirty so just give it a rest. The Rangers suck and he had one game where he got the misconduct. He had 2 major penalties all year, so quit crying that he's a dirty player. Boo fuckin' hoo.

Ruutu does a great job for the Pens. Like Ulf Samuelsson, his reputation gets him alot of penalties. He's there to check people and, if they get pissed off, then oh well, but he does exactly what the team asks him to do and his teammates love him, something I'm not so sure you can say about Avery.

 

[Mike80]

Detroit just got fucked on that call....

 

[3074326]

Probably one of the worst calls I've seen in the playoffs, if not the worst.

 

[Mike80]

Probably one of the worst calls I've seen in the playoffs, if not the worst.

I mean I understand that Holmstrom pushes that line quite a bit, it IS his game after all, but damn he was a good foot away from Bitchco and at least 3 inches off of the red line not to mention the blue area....

It's Dan O'Hallaran, he's easily the worst ref left in the playoffs right now....

 

[Mike80]

It just goes to show (and the Trashville series showed us this too), that if you bitch enough, the refs look to give you calls after a while. That's exactly what Turco and co. have done this series.

 

[3074326]

Well, I guess it worked. I have this feeling that Detroit will make up for it, though.

Still a terrible call, I hope he's not officiating in the finals. You have to be blind to make a call like that. I thought the hooking calls in the first period of last night's game were questionable.. nothing compared to that garbage (and I'm not even rooting for Detroit).

EDIT: Turco is getting himself into some situations tonight..

 

[Mike80]

That guy was in the blue there for Dallas but it counted...

Typical bullshit NHL officiating.

 

[shoegirl]

That guy was in the blue there for Dallas but it counted...

Typical bullshit NHL officiating.

That was ridiculous. Ugh. One more period to get it together. I'd really, really like to sweep these guys.

 

[Mike80]

Wave that one off bitches!!!