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Notre Dame (football only discussion)

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Steve19 said:
What surprises me is the speed with which people rush to judgments. All we know is that Clausen appears to have been exiting a bar with some family members after midnight, gotten in a fight, and picked up a bit of a shiner.

Did someone sucker punch him? If so, everything Dryden says makes perfect sense.

Did some fan shout something like, "Notre Dame sucks" and Clausen threatened to kick his arse. Did Clausen steal some guy's girlfriend...or his money...or whatever, and the punch had nothing to do with football? Did he employ his emu mind chant and break the other guy's arm? The righteous indignation may be not so well placed in situations such as this.

I'd prefer to wait and let the whole story come out before forming any kind of opinion about the person who clocked him.
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And until all the details come out, we can laugh.....since nobody was seriously hurt.
 
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NightmaresDad;1604259; said:
Man, this guy is messed up.

First, we discover that he has two butts, one in back and one in front.

Now we discover that his tear ducts ar in his nose!

Next you'll try to tell me something crazy - like he sh**s out his mouth.
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Bucky Katt;1604584; said:
They have now released details of the alleged culprit. African-American, approximately 55 years old, about 5-9, 165 pounds. Hair beginning to grey and thinning. Sporting a mustache.

:paranoid:
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David Kaplan report: Clausen in fight outside South Bend bar

November 23, 2009 8:24 PM | 59 Comments | UPDATED STORY

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Jimmy Clausen directs his offense vs. Connecticut at Notre Dame
Stadium. (Jonathan Danie / Getty Images)

From David Kaplan, WGN-AM 720: Notre Dame quarterback Jimmy
Clausen was involved in a fight outside a South Bend bar early Sunday
morning, according to a report Monday evening by WGN-AM's David
Kaplan.

According to Kaplan, Clausen has two black eyes from the altercation at
around 2:30 a.m. Sunday. The incident comes on the heels of the Irish's
overtime loss to Connecticut, their fifth of the season, leaving Notre Dame
at 6-5.
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The caught him!!!

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http://www.hoopsworld.com/FeedItem.asp?FEED_ITEM_ID=1169499

Here?s the latest version of the Clausen story, from the official ND source. According to a University source, Clausen was at C.J.?s Pub with friends, family and a ?date.? A man shoved his date as he left the bar. Clausen pushed the man with ?his hand landing in the neck area.? The guy punched him in the eye. They wrestled and then had the fight broken up. Deadspin has a couple different accounts. Clausen has one, not two black eyes as initially reported. Notre Dame will hope this disappears faster than Brady Quinn?s alleged homophobia. (South Bend Tribune)
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The Notre Dame AD made a statement that Clausen and his party were leaving the bar after exchanging words with other patrons. The official story is now that his date left her purse behind and the altercation ensued when Clausen went back into the bar to retrieve it.

Several things seem to point out that the original story about an unprovoked suckerpunch does not tell the full story. No charges are being filed by Clausen. His AD admits that words were exchanged with others in the bar prior to the fight. The words must have been pretty aggressive or the family wouldn't have decided to leave because of them.

So, Clausen's re-entry into the bar, after taking his date and family outside, may well have been interpreted as threatening, if he had made threats or provoked the person who threw the punch.

I guess we may never know what happened fully. Quite frankly, I don't care.

This kind of thing is bad for college football. There is no excuse for a fan taking an unprovoked shot at a college player or harrassing him and his family. These kids hate to lose much more than their fans.

Still, if Clausen showed disrespect to someone, pushed him, or threatened him verbally, he should have expected that a physical response was a predictable outcome in an environment where people had been drinking and inhibitions were low.

The moral of the story? If you are in the public eye, protect yourself at all times.
 
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Steve19;1605179; said:
The Notre Dame AD made a statement that Clausen and his party were leaving the bar after exchanging words with other patrons. The official story is now that his date left her purse behind and the altercation ensued when Clausen went back into the bar to retrieve it.

Several things seem to point out that the original story about an unprovoked suckerpunch does not tell the full story. No charges are being filed by Clausen. His AD admits that words were exchanged with others in the bar prior to the fight. The words must have been pretty aggressive or the family wouldn't have decided to leave because of them.

So, Clausen's re-entry into the bar, after taking his date and family outside, may well have been interpreted as threatening, if he had made threats or provoked the person who threw the punch.

I guess we may never know what happened fully. Quite frankly, I don't care.

This kind of thing is bad for college football. There is no excuse for a fan taking an unprovoked shot at a college player or harrassing him and his family. These kids hate to lose much more than their fans.

Still, if Clausen showed disrespect to someone, pushed him, or threatened him verbally, he should have expected that a physical response was a predictable outcome in an environment where people had been drinking and inhibitions were low.

The moral of the story? If you are in the public eye, protect yourself at all times.
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I can understand why the emu would be a little testy. I mean, he's still waiting for that first Heisman when he was told he'd win three.
 
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Steve19;1605179; said:
The Notre Dame AD made a statement that Clausen and his party were leaving the bar after exchanging words with other patrons. The official story is now that his date left her purse behind and the altercation ensued when Clausen went back into the bar to retrieve it.

Several things seem to point out that the original story about an unprovoked suckerpunch does not tell the full story. No charges are being filed by Clausen. His AD admits that words were exchanged with others in the bar prior to the fight. The words must have been pretty aggressive or the family wouldn't have decided to leave because of them.

So, Clausen's re-entry into the bar, after taking his date and family outside, may well have been interpreted as threatening, if he had made threats or provoked the person who threw the punch.

I guess we may never know what happened fully. Quite frankly, I don't care.

This kind of thing is bad for college football. There is no excuse for a fan taking an unprovoked shot at a college player or harrassing him and his family. These kids hate to lose much more than their fans.

Still, if Clausen showed disrespect to someone, pushed him, or threatened him verbally, he should have expected that a physical response was a predictable outcome in an environment where people had been drinking and inhibitions were low.

The moral of the story? If you are in the public eye, protect yourself at all times.
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I heard it was his purse...
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1604586; said:
After reading about him in the Cali state championship game and at his signing extravaganza, nobody wanted the emu to fail more than me. Turns out he's toned down his act and become a damned good quarterback. Also, unlike BQ, he can take a couple of shots to the chin and keep his head in the game. The emu's earned my respect.
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Yeah I'd like to do the same but then I saw how he taunted the hawaii bench on damn near every TD in his one and only taste of "big game" success.

From the beginning I laughed when I read he got clocked. Tyler M's case was the 1 in a million where a punch damn near kills some poor bastard.
Usually some fuckhead with a punchable face getting drilled in a bar is kind of funny, unless of course you are he.

A confirmed serial asshat like Claussen getting his eye dotted is grounds for laughter in my book.
 
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