Notre Dame Fighting Irish (official thread of bowl failures)

[Taosman]

Doing things the "right way"? Wow! That sounds a lot like a certain "cult" we know and love. All we need to hear next is about some ND priest abusing young boys in a football facility!
And it wouldn't hurt our recruiting if Kelly caught some heat.

 

[ulukinatme]

Sounds like the self-righteous, hypocritical ND that I know and loathe. For a moment, I actually thought the priests were going to cash the checks that their lying whore mouths are always writing. I should have known that wouldn't be the case when the dust settled.

The rumors are kind of all over the place right now, so I would take the 1 game suspension with a grain of salt. Most rumors seem to point to a year suspension. If I had to guess, if the rumors are true I would expect the players would be suspended for the year similar to Golson.

 

[ulukinatme]

What a shame.

I think she's doing it wrong........She offers to write these guys' papers in exchange for them performing "favors" for her? How fugly does a girl have to be to not be able to get laid for free on a college campus? The manipulative ones have figured out how to trick guys into buying them hours worth of drinks first......

A 3 star prospect in Texas is a 5 star in South Bend.

 

[NFBuck]

Some of that is true...but it's not a university official from what I've heard, and it's not a he...it's a bit worse than all that.

The names are all right from what I've seen though. Daniels figured to be a big time player and a starter, but replaceable in a deep WR core. Williams is a 5 star that has been a bust till now, but was slated as a starter for this year. Moore was actually a backup and not considered a big loss. KVR would be the biggest loss, however. He was on award watch lists and considered one of the best corners in the nation this year. We will likely be replaced by Florida transfer, Cody Riggs, with Cole Luke gaining a starting CB spot.

Yikes. Will they have to vacate that National Championship?

Geez, I thought that all ND recruits were high school honor students admitted under the same matrix as normal students. Could it actually be that they're dipping into the lower end of the pool just like every other big time football program. They sure as [Mark May] won't release any admissions data on their football players, which I'm absolutely sure they would be trumpeting from every mountaintop were those players coming in with stats even marginally approaching that of the entire freshman class.

What I find most interesting is that there seems to be a systemic program of cheating to keep them eligible. There's enough smoke swirling around this program, that only the truly naive would believe that it's not being arranged and sanctioned by the program. Not that the World's Angriest Man will ever be held accountable. He's racked up a literal body count, so I doubt any academic fraud is going to stick.

If the four are being expelled though, it does seem as though the administration is saying, "enough is enough." As a confirmed ND hater, I still have to recognize and respect that. Now if they can now just start holding prominent AD individuals accountable for manslaughter, we'll be making real progress.

Don't forget rape.

The lack of caring about academics is Kelly's forte. Tony Pike spent 5 full years at UC and wasn't close to graduating.

Sounds like the self-righteous, hypocritical ND that I know and loathe. For a moment, I actually thought the priests were going to cash the checks that their lying whore mouths are always writing. I should have known that wouldn't be the case when the dust settled.

 

[ulukinatme]

He ain't kiddin'

@ESPN_CoachMack

Follow ND Student Managers are working hard to prepare for practice. These young people work so hard

 

[Dryden]

Some of them are more "all in" than others.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

There's probably not a more fun fan base to laugh at than the prissy, holier-than-thou Irish fans. And I am laughing at them today.

Their fan base to me is personified by this Bay Area talk show host who is simultaneously smug and whining. He's an ND grad and is always talking about how, win or lose, Notre Dame does things the right way. And he always uses Ohio State as an example of a program who does the wrong way.

I imagine, after back to back years with academic fraud permeating the program, he will have to come up with a new excuse why the Irish aren't good on the football field.

No, no he won't. A LOIC finding against their program didn't put the slightest dent in their holier-than-thou world view. Seriously, the Paterno Cult has nothing on ND. This will not change this guy's outlook on iota. Mark it, Dude.

 

[ulukinatme]

First official statement from the university. Looks like they'll vacate wins if papers/homework were plagiarized during the season.

http://news.nd.edu/news/49851-notre-dame-reports-academic-misconduct-investigation/

Note: A news conference at 6 p.m. today will be streamed live on the University’s website, news.nd.edu, and the athletics website, www.und.com.

The University of Notre Dame is investigating suspected academic dishonesty on the part of several students, including four members of the football team. Because of the potential for NCAA violations, the University notified the NCAA today, and the four football players will be held out of practice and competition until the conclusion of an ongoing investigation and the University honor code process. Any possible academic dishonesty by other students will be addressed appropriately.

“Integrity is at the heart of our mission and academic misconduct will not be tolerated at Notre Dame,” said Rev. John I. Jenkins, C.S.C., the University’s president. “If the suspected improprieties are proven, we will use the experience to reinforce among our students the importance of honesty in all that they do. We are also examining ways of better conveying to students that they can avail themselves of legitimate academic assistance without resorting to cheating.”

Evidence that students had submitted papers and homework that had been written for them by others was initially detected at the end of the summer session, and referred to the compliance office in athletics on July 29. The Office of General Counsel initiated an immediate investigation.

That investigation is ongoing. If it determines that the student-athletes would have been ineligible during past competition, Notre Dame will voluntarily vacate any victories in which they participated.

“The University is committed to thorough resolution of this matter, consistent with its commitment to academic integrity and adherence to NCAA rules," Father Jenkins said.

Students who are subject to the investigation will remain enrolled until its conclusion.

 

[colobuck79]

Now we will see how the Domer alums compare to the Pedtard cult. They have been given advance notice that wins may be vacated. If this was Pennsyltucky, the riots would have already started. Don't let us down Domers!

 

[DiamondBuck]

The one in the middle is particularly hideous.

 

[ulukinatme]

So, they just had the press conference. Basically all they said was that they're in the middle of the investigation, they did name the four players that were already mentioned, and the players are suspended until the investigation is finished. Most questions were answered with "Can't say, we don't know enough yet, investigation is under way."

‏@Matt_Fortuna 14m
#NotreDame prez John Jenkins says penalties could be as minor as an F on a paper to dismissal. Says it's not an athletic process.
‏@Matt_Fortuna 13m
#NotreDame AD Jack Swarbrick: "Let's not confuse academic probation where you don't make grades for academic dishonesty."
@Matt_Fortuna 24m
#NotreDame prez John Jenkins: Investigation still underway, won't speculate who's involved/how far back.
@Matt_Fortuna 26m
#NotreDame prez John Jenkins: "Academic misconduct has no place at a university."
@Matt_Fortuna 28m
#NotreDame prez John Jenkins: School notified NCAA today. At this juncture no one judged responsible, no dismissals, no sanctions.
@Matt_Fortuna 24m
#NotreDame prez John Jenkins: Brian Kelly and staff have been helpful.
Matt_Fortuna 22m
#NotreDame prez John Jenkins: No evidence Brian Kelly or academic staff knew.
@Matt_Fortuna 13m
#NotreDame AD Jack Swarbrick on why they could vacate: "It relates to one of those narrow areas where the NCAA engages."

 

[OHSportsFan]

Not sure if this has much to do with anything, and it's probably rude of me to discuss considering she's dating a friend of mine currently, but I know a girl that recently graduated from St. Mary's (IN) and established quite the roster during her time there in South Bend...as in the majority of the football roster.

Seriously, we're talking A LOT of the team dipped in that sauce. You name a star from last 2-5 years and I could nod my head.

No clue if she could write papers.

 

[Jaxbuck]

#NotreDame prez John Jenkins: No evidence Brian Kelly or academic staff knew.

about the rape, the academic fraud or that high winds will knock down a scissor lift?

 

[Jaxbuck]

Not sure if this has much to do with anything, and it's probably rude of me to discuss considering she's dating a friend of mine currently, but I know a girl that recently graduated from St. Mary's (IN) and established quite the roster during her time there in South Bend...as in the majority of the football roster.

Seriously, we're talking A LOT of the team dipped in that sauce. You name a star from last 2-5 years and I could nod my head.

No clue if she could write papers.

Pics or you are full of shit

 

[Poe McKnoe]

Not sure if this has much to do with anything, and it's probably rude of me to discuss considering she's dating a friend of mine currently, but I know a girl that recently graduated from St. Mary's (IN) and established quite the roster during her time there in South Bend...as in the majority of the football roster.

Seriously, we're talking A LOT of the team dipped in that sauce. You name a star from last 2-5 years and I could nod my head.

No clue if she could write papers.

Is your friend aware of his position on the depth chart?