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NoSuch Dame LB Manti "Snugglebunny" Te'o (official imaginary thread)

Bucklion;2293702; said:
Yeah I'm not seeing it...I mean, say for example they were all in on it, and it was a mass Notre Dame conspiracy. Fine...but where is the crime? Where is the victim? Where is the competitive advantage? They got plenty of media grease, but so did Tim Tebow...but that still didn't throw a jump pass or run a ball in for a TD for him. I see where it would be a despicable attempt to, I don't know, grow the fan base? Generate publicity? Encourage donations? But I don't see how it affected NCAA competitive balance, and I don't know how "ethics" would come into play when there was no victim.

Idk about Ntre Ame's culpability, but the donations were procured by fraud, and constitute a federal offense...
 
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TE'O:Then she started to make progress.
SI: This is unbelievable.


I bet he feels like an ass when he reads back through and sees that line. I've been on the fence for this whole things because its so bizarre. A part of me thinks this guy got into an online relationship, was ashamed of it, and then handled it completely wrong, but after reading through that transcript his story just seems too extreme for anyone to be dumb enough to believe it without making it up themselves.


Another thing... I haven't seen this brought up yet, sorry if it has. A number of the articles that I've read have stated that teammates and others believe that Te'o couldn't have been involved based on the emotions that he was going through in the locker room being so genuine. Its not unreasonable to think that the emotion he was showing was genuine, for his grandmother, and he saw that as a good opportunity to plug in the gf's death as well so that no one would question his lack of emotion if she died at another time.
 
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lvbuckeye;2293825; said:
Idk about Ntre Ame's culpability, but the donations were procured by fraud, and constitute a federal offense...

As someone who thought more highly of this kid because he was supposedly going through so much, I am appalled. I don't believe that he "had nothing to gain" or that he was duped. That is nothing more than a continuation of the same "feel sorry for him" meme.

This should be investigated as wire fraud, he and others involved, including ND athletic adminstrators, should be prosecuted, and his awards this year should be returned.
 
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Maybe he was in a relationship. He might not have had a girlfriend that lived in another state, but maybe it a boyfriend that lived in another state.

This is plausible. That he was in a devoted relationship with another male and wanted to keep it hidden. So when people asked him, he was truthful about the relationship, the educational and location status of his flame, as well as it being the love of his life. His family could have knoen about his relationship and agreed to keep it covered up. The only things that he would have to change when speaking about his personal life is "her" to "him". Inserting a "death" about his boyfriend he thought that it would get people off his back and to stop asking questions?

Just another angle on it.
 
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Something that came to me this evening: This whole T'eo thing is due to the Olympics (or our coverage of them).

At some point, on field accomplishments and athletic endeavors took a side or back seat to "narrative" and "story"... and here we are.

And who goofs up the Olympic broadcast with forced human interest stories to keep our attention? NBC.

And who has the exclusive television deal with Notre Dame? NBC.

Yup, this goes all the way to the top of 30 Rock... well, home base for of the triumvirate, along with Colonel Sanders and Ty Willingham.
 
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MaliBuckeye;2293844; said:
Something that came to me this evening: This whole T'eo thing is due to the Olympics (or our coverage of them).

At some point, on field accomplishments and athletic endeavors took a side or back seat to "narrative" and "story"... and here we are.

And who goofs up the Olympic broadcast with forced human interest stories to keep our attention? NBC.

And who has the exclusive television deal with Notre Dame? NBC.

Yup, this goes all the way to the top of 30 Rock... well, home base for of the triumvirate, along with Colonel Sanders and Ty Willingham.

That would be quite a stretch to believe that NBC would fabricate this entire mess. Sure they have the Notre Dame TV deal, but I don't think the executives at 30 Rock would do something this callous just to garner higher ratings. I've read the whole thread, and several of the Notre Dame messageboards, and wow. Just...wow.

They need to get Oprah to interview Manti Te'o, because she was excellent with Lance Armstrong. She asked incredibly pointed questions, and held his feet to the fire.

The most important question is WHY? Manti Te'o just doesn't seem like the kind of kid that would pull off something like this, but he's smart enough to get into Notre Dame.

I think there are really only three possibilities:
1. Manti Te'o isn't the guy we think he is. He, with the help of his family and friends, concocted a story about his off-field life in order to bring notoriety and media attention to his on-field performances, resulting in individual awards, draft stock, and future revenue via the NFL and endorsement deals.
2. Manti created this story to hide his homosexual personal life, which is terrible to think he'd have to do that. But he would have to to protect himself, considering he's LDS, AND attending a Catholic school, AND he's an All-American player with a possible future in the NFL.
3. He really is that naive. Unfortunately, at some point the rolling snowball got too big, and one lie on top of another just got to be too much to keep contained. It's really amazing that the media, as intrusive and disrespectful as they can be, never vetted the story of his girlfriend.
 
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Businesses looking for attention know how to get it these days: tie it to Manti Te'o, the Notre Dame linebacker in the midst of a fake girlfriend scandal.

On Thursday morning, Spirit Airlines posted an ad on its website proclaiming: "No hoax. These fares are really low," written in Notre Dame's blue and yellow just like its famous "Play Like A Champion Today" sign.

Late Thursday evening, an independent baseball team, the Florence (Ky.) Freedom, announced it would have "Manti Te'o Girlfriend Bobblehead Day."

As part of the promotion in late May, the first 1,000 fans will get an empty bobblehead box, there will be a pretend kiss cam for fans to kiss their imaginary friends and there will be an imaginary food fight in the kids' area, as well as an air guitar contest.


"There's not a lot to do to get attention in January," Freedom general manager Josh Anderson said. "You have to find some way to get the buzz."

Anderson said things might die down by May 23, the day of the promotion, but the team is committed to it nonetheless.

Is it too edgy and too soon?

"I don't know who we'd be offending," said Anderson, who said he met his wife online. "It would just be isolated to the guy who made his season based off this story."

Giving away a box of nothing has long been a minor league trick. The last team to famously do this? The Peoria Chiefs, the Chicago Cubs' Single-A affiliate, who in 2011, after the Miami Heat lost to the Mavericks, gave out LeBron James championship rings.

The Freedom hope enough real people come to the promotion. The team drew roughly 2,000 fans a game in its 3,100-seat ballpark last season.

On Wednesday, Deadspin.com broke the story that Te'o's girlfriend, whom he had said died of leukemia, was not a real person. Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick said Te'o, who has yet to speak publicly about the story, was a victim of an online hoax.

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Someone else stated this already - the real crime was done by the reporters by NOT investigating the crap that they're reporting. Other than that, I don't really care if Te'o was in on the scam. He may have gotten more votes for his awards because of this story, maybe not. I think if anyone votes based off of off-field "heart-warming/wrenching" stories, then he really doesn't deserve to vote. I can see how you might not vote for a guy who's been caught shoplifting. But you shouldn't vote for a guy because of deaths in his family.

Who does this issue really hurt? It hurts the next guy who comes along with a sympathy story, trying to get attention in the media. Hopefully, the media will do their job and actually find out if his story is correct.
 
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OSUBucks22;2293862; said:
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On Thursday morning, Spirit Airlines posted an ad on its website proclaiming: "No hoax. These fares are really low," written in Notre Dame's blue and yellow just like its famous "Play Like A Champion Today" sign.
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