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NIT: #1 Ohio State vs. #3 Dayton, Wed. 9 pm at the Schott ( ESPN2)

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At the end of the first half I was convinced the Flyers were the quicker of the two teams... and the Bucks rebounding was pathetic. I was happy that the Bucks managed to close it down to one point, but I wasn't optomistic about the second half.

Wright was very quick, but he got away with steps on the first dunk... still an amazing move... and then got called on it the second time when I thought it was less obvious.
 
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NIT
Ohio State downs Dayton in NIT quarterfinals
Roberts scores 20 for Flyers

COLUMBUS - Ohio State is back in the final four, only this time, it's the lower case version.

The Buckeyes shook off Dayton 74-63 in the quarterfinal round of the National Invitation Tournament last night, and now move on to the NIT semifinals in New York City's Madison Square Garden to face Mississippi on April 1.

Last year Ohio State made the Final Four in the NCAA tournament, then lost to Florida in the championship game of that event. The bulk of that team is gone, and the rebuilt Buckeyes are still playing for a championship.

"When we tip off next week, there's going to be eight teams left playing college basketball," Ohio State coach Thad Matta said. "When you look at us, a team with just four players returning this year, I'm proud of their effort."

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I will admit that I have not read the entire thread but I would like to give props to the Dayton team. I think the score might have been different if you guys would have had Wright for the entire game but you probably would have not been in the NIT if he had been healthy the entire season. However, on the other hand, if the Buckeyes had played the entire season Lake they have in the past few weeks they probably would not have been in the NIT either. All of our guys are finally playing like I think all of us thought they would be playing at the start of the season.

Roberts is a very good offensive player but from what some of you guys posted I was expecting much more. I will admit that he is a very good outside shooter and as the ability to penetrate at times. However, quite if you have his shots were wide open and he read he did not have to work for some of them. I don't think I would compare him to Gordon because Gordon can create off the dribble much easier than Roberts. I really don't think he had to work very hard for some his shots last night so I cannot give him a fair evaluation. Some of the scorers that Ohio State has played during this season have had to work very hard for their shots.

You guys have a very good team but you ran into a better one last night.
 
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Ohio State ends UD's season


By Mark Gokavi
Staff Writer


Thursday, March 27, 2008


COLUMBUS ? The Buckeyes let their in-state friends from Dayton enjoy a warm welcome for a half. But the Ohio State men's basketball team was coldly efficient after that.
Ohio State shot 60 percent from the field after halftime and rolled to a 74-63 victory over Dayton in an NIT quarterfinal on Wednesday, March 25, in front of a sellout crowd of 19,049 scarlet- and red-clad fans at the Schottenstein Center.

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buckeyesin07;1125386; said:
OK, so OSU only won the game because the entire team played better defensively than it did all season, several of OSU's players played better offensively than they usually do, Dayton did not play up to its potential, and the refs screwed Dayton? Did I catch all of your excuses?
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Not excuses, just my observations. I usually post in every game thread some observations from the game....and they are 100% correct by the way.

OSU did in fact only win the game because the team played their best defensive half of the year coupled with the fact the Diebler scored above his average and Koufus hit every shot he took...which he usually does not.

I didn't say the refs screwed Dayton, just that Roberts could have got to the foul line more/at all. The refs let a lot of hand checking go in the second half...on both sides. Minus the cheapy called on Johnson 50 feet from the hoop.
 
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OSUBucks22;1125310; said:
I do have a question for everyone... Has Butler always extended his off arm on the dribble to create separation? I saw him do it at least 7 times last night and not get called which was frustrating to me... (And yes, I know that Roberts got away with A push-off on Lighty, but the key word is A)...
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Butler has probably extended his left arm for the majority of the season but he read he does not do it for separation right before the shot Lake Roberts did that one time in the first half. I can't remember Butler never pushing off a guy to shoot a jump shot. He has used it while dribbling but not really to get off the shot. More like to keep a little separation while he is dribbling IMO
 
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LitlBuck;1125421; said:
Roberts is a very good offensive player but from what some of you guys posted I was expecting much more. I will admit that he is a very good outside shooter and as the ability to penetrate at times. However, quite if you have his shots were wide open and he read he did not have to work for some of them. I don't think I would compare him to Gordon because Gordon can create off the dribble much easier than Roberts. I really don't think he had to work very hard for some his shots last night so I cannot give him a fair evaluation. Some of the scorers that Ohio State has played during this season have had to work very hard for their shots.

You guys have a very good team but you ran into a better one last night.
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Gordon is a way better penetrator and athlete...I would never compare Roberts to Gordon..other than they both score a ton of points.

What you saw tonight was a typical night for Roberts. He didn't do anything extrodinary but then you look at the stat sheet he scored 20. He missed a couple open threes that he usually will knock down in the second half and he could have gottent to the line more. He was a couple missed shots and foul shots away from scoring 26-30 points. He didn't take control of the game during that OSU run in the beginning of the second half which was disappointing. Once he gets going, he is tough to stop...he just never got going in the second half last night.
 
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Tlangs;1125423; said:
Not excuses, just my observations. I usually post in every game thread some observations from the game....and they are 100% correct by the way.
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100 percent? Wow, you think awful highly of yourself.

FWIW, Ohio State did benefit from a few calls last night. But I'd hardly say it mattered in the final score, considering Ohio State was up by double digits throughout the last 10 minutes, and had the lead up to 18 a couple of times. It probably would have been a worse final score had Dayton put in their scrubs against Titus and Peters at the end.
 
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UD, OSU playing again a long shot


By Doug Harris
Staff Writer

Thursday, March 27, 2008


COLUMBUS ? Ohio State coach Thad Matta may not be keen on initiating a home-and-away series against Dayton. But if he ever warmed to the idea, he'd have his administration's full support.
"We have moved to having more in-state games in football, and we'd like to at least look at doing the same thing in basketball," said OSU senior associate athletic director Michelle Willis, who coordinates basketball scheduling. "I don't know if it would be an every year thing, every other year or an every four-year thing, but we would be willing to take a look at it.

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OSU NOTES
Diebler gives Buckeyes big lift in 2nd half


By Mark Gokavi
Staff Writer

Thursday, March 27, 2008

COLUMBUS ? As Frank Sinatra sang over the loudspeakers, Ohio State men's basketball fans made travel plans for New York, New York.
The Buckeyes ripped open the NIT quarterfinal after halftime Wednesday, March 26, in front of a sellout crowd of 19,049 at the Schottenstein Center.
Ohio State's 74-63 victory over Dayton was keyed by a 19-6 run led by five different Buckeyes and a second-half attitude adjustment.
"I couldn't get them to understand how important this game was going to be to Dayton," OSU coach Thad Matta said. "They can't handle that. So we had to kind of get rocked a little bit early."

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OH10;1125437; said:
100 percent? Wow, you think awful highly of yourself.

FWIW, Ohio State did benefit from a few calls last night. But I'd hardly say it mattered in the final score, considering Ohio State was up by double digits throughout the last 10 minutes, and had the lead up to 18 a couple of times. It probably would have been a worse final score had Dayton put in their scrubs against Titus and Peters at the end.
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Tell me which one of those things I said were incorrect......if they are all correct statements then 100% correct would be an accurate description of them.

When has Koufus shot so well from the floor this season?
When was the last game that Diebler played this well?
Was Ohio States defensive effort in the second half one of the best of the year?

Oh and I never said the refs cost the game...just Roberts usually shoots a lot of free throws in most games...he didn't last night....that is all I was saying.
 
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Tlangs;1125446; said:
Tell me which one of those things I said were incorrect......if they aren't then 100% correct would be an accurate description of them.

When has Koufus shot so well from the floor this season?
When was the last game that Diebler played this well?
Was Ohio States defensive effort in the second half one of the best of the year?
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Considering its an opinion and based on your perception, to pawn your observations off as fact is shortsighted and extremely arrogant.

Dayton's defense on Koufos sucked. They left him open and they failed to body him up - did you want him to miss wide-open 15-footers on the baseline? Dayton left Diebler open a couple of times - what can I say? - don't let the squirral find his nut. And Dayton's offense was drab, boring, and predictable - Ohio State had the best scoring defense in the Big Ten - so they were certainly going to be able to shut down the 8th-place team in the A-10.

You make it sound like it was the perfect storm for an Ohio State "upset" of Dayton - like it was somehow Santa Clara over Arizona circa '94. Not true at all. Ohio State simply beat an average basketball team by taking advantage of their mistakes and shortcomings.
 
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OH10;1125452; said:
Considering its an opinion and based on your perception, to pawn your observations off as fact is shortsighted and extremely arrogant.

Dayton's defense on Koufos sucked. They left him open and they failed to body him up - did you want him to miss wide-open 15-footers on the baseline? Dayton left Diebler open a couple of times - what can I say? - don't let the squirral find his nut. And Dayton's offense was drab, boring, and predictable - Ohio State had the best scoring defense in the Big Ten - so they were certainly going to be able to shut down the 8th-place team in the A-10.

You make it sound like it was the perfect storm for an Ohio State "upset" of Dayton - like it was somehow Santa Clara over Arizona circa '94. Not true at all. Ohio State simply beat an average basketball team by taking advantage of their mistakes and shortcomings.
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I'm sorry if it came accross as arogant and that it was an "upset" for Dayton. That was not my intent at all.

I was just posting my thoughts on why OSU won. and the things that just jumped out at me were the excellent defense that OSU played in the second half as well as Koufus shooting great from the perimeter and Diebler stepping up his play. I was trying to focus on things that OSU did do and not what UD did not do. When you post about what your team didn't do, to me that seems that you are giving no credit to the winning team. What I was trying to do was give credit to OSU for upping their intesity and knocking down shots.

Also, Dayton is a much better team than "the 8th place team in the A10" even though that was their final ranking (enter Bill Parcells quote here..."you are what your record says you are) Also, OSU has lost to teams that are worse than UD this year so to say that
they were certainly going to be able to shut down the 8th-place team in the A-10.
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was not a forgone conclusion by any stretch of the imagination.
 
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