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Nick Saban (ex-HC Alabama Crimson Tide)

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What I don't understand is the part where he's like "fans don't care to know blah blah blah" personally if I am a CrimsonTide fan I am furious. If Tressel signed 32 committs you bet your ass i'd be interested to see which ones WOULDN'T be showing up come fall. Thats my team and I follow them everyday no matter the time of year. Hell right now I am so bored i'll read an entire column on someone adding 5lbs to their bench its getting so bad.
 
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You guys are forgetting about SEC speed here. You see, SEC recruits are so fast that they actually experience relativistic time dilation just going about their everyday lives. His fastest signees won't even show up on campus until some time next year.

Problem solved, as always, with SEC speed.
 
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Actually, he lined up the names and asked 50 random Alabama mall-goers if they total was greater than 25, during a mall-interecept study. The bottom line is that none of them could count that high and it looked like a cinch to hide it. Guess he didn't count on folks outside the county bein' able to cipher.

Heck, with all them newfangled mobile home garages goin' in...

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...and Bo and Cooter tied up in Europe with their Hillbilly Babylon show...

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...who'd a guessed Slick Nick was a gonna be caught out?

So, y'all come on down and enjoy us and let's watch the fun.

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I hope everyone he is recruiting sees exactly what he does to get out of this mess and how many kids lives he hurts as a result.
 
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Anyone else catch Tom Luginbill claiming that it's OK for Saban to oversign then cut guys because "everyone does it"? I'm no college football guru, but I can't recall someone intentionally promising more scholarships than they have and then just telling guys to transfer or be cut. I'm not sure it's illegal, but it's damn sure unethical.

If someone can think of another example of this, please post it here. I'll happily change my opinion of Saban's tactics.
 
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TheIronColonel;1143497; said:
Anyone else catch Tom Luginbill claiming that it's OK for Saban to oversign then cut guys because "everyone does it"? I'm no college football guru, but I can't recall someone intentionally promising more scholarships than they have and then just telling guys to transfer or be cut. I'm not sure it's illegal, but it's damn sure unethical.

If someone can think of another example of this, please post it here. I'll happily change my opinion of Saban's tactics.
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Luginbill just left out "in the SEC" after "everyone". Once thats put in the sentence his point is valid.

Now as to the bigger question of why the SEC isn't taken to task by the national media for oversigning, off the field issues, NCAA violations or graduation rates is a topic that needs its own thread.
 
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Simple (OK, simplistic) solution.

For every over-signed athlete at a school who is not made a member of the roster, or is ditched to make room, that institution gets a knock against it's APR equal to the impact of a player dropping out without completing academic requirements - the 0-2 athlete if you will.

That is something that it is in the NCAA's ability to monitor and impose penalties upon.
 
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Judge nixes $5M verdict against NCAA in Alabama boster suit - NCAA Football - Yahoo! Sports
yahoo.com said:
Judge nixes $5M verdict against NCAA in Alabama boster suit

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (AP)?A judge threw out the $5 million verdict an Alabama football fan won in his lawsuit accusing the NCAA of slander, ruling in a decision made public Wednesday that jurors were swayed by prejudice.

Circuit Judge William Gordon granted the NCAA?s request for a new trial in a lawsuit filed by timber dealer Ray Keller. He did not set a date.

Keller claimed the NCAA slandered and libeled him when it announced penalties against Alabama in 2002 by referring to him and others as ?rogue boosters,? ?parasites? and ?pariahs.?

The NCAA said it never publicly identified Keller, and it portrayed him as a rabid fan who lost all perspective on the game.

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TheIronColonel;1150507; said:
Seriously?

He might not be explicitly breaking the rules, but Saban is a master of bending rules to the point of being incredibly creepy. It's like he stalks recruits. Sooner or later the NCAA will just get tired of it and find a way to ban him for life.
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Nick Saban Continues to Recruit His Way

You can?t stop Nick Saban. You can only hope to contain him.
Earlier this year, the NCAA passed two new rules to control head coaches from going to visit high school campuses?both of them aimed at trying to slow down Saban and SEC head coaching fraternity member Urban Meyer.
Many have actually gone as far as to call the new restrictions ?The Saban Rule.?
The rule demands that head coaches cannot make trips to high school campuses for evaluation and can only contact recruits by phone call once during the 45-day period.
As I reported about two weeks ago, Saban was not happy about this new rule.
?I think its ridiculous,? Saban said about two weeks ago. ?I think we?ve really limited ourselves by what we?ve done, and I totally disagree with it.?
Even with new rule, Saban is still making his way around high school campuses on the Internet.
In a new hint of brilliance, Saban is now talking to recruits through video-conferencing, something completely legal by NCAA rules.
According to the NCAA, ?All electronically transmitted human voice exchange (including video conferencing and videophones) shall be considered telephone calls.? As I also stated above, the NCAA says that coaches can call recruits only once, but recruits can make contact with the head coach as often as they wish.
Just last week, the only coach with a No. 1 recruiting class at two different schools talked to Athens High School prospect William Ming through a video conference.
Tide assistant Curt Cignetti visited the junior in north Alabama and left behind a web address.
Ming then went into a computer lab and talked with Saban for a good half hour.
?You could see facial expressions and hand gestures just as if you were sitting across the desk from him,? Athens head coach Allen Creasy said of the conversation Ming had with Saban. ?(That?s) a first from a recruiting standpoint.?
Looks like someone has read the rules.
Through this new technique, Saban has once again made his way into new territory and made an impact in the recruiting world. It is almost a sure bet that William Ming will not be the last Tide prospect to have access to NickSabantalk.com.
?This is opening another door for him,? Creasy said. ?If you?re not looking for innovative ways to push the envelope, somebody else is. That?s what keeps the top guys on top.?
Even though Alabama won?t have the room to pull in another No. 1 class this year, don?t expect Saban to be too far from the top come National Signing Day 2009.
Saban is one of those guys who will find ways to continue to recruit his way no matter how many rules are made in his honor.

Entire article: Nick Saban Continues to Recruit His Way | Bleacher Report

"The Saban Rule" Changes the Landscape of the Spring Evaluation Period

April 15 was the beginning of the spring evaluation period in college football, giving coaches until the end of May to evaluate the upcoming high school seniors.
However, this off-season, for the first time ever, head coaches will be staying on campus and away from the potential recruits.
This is due to a new rule passed by the NCAA and originally brought to light by coaches of the SEC.
The new rule states that head coach can no longer go evaluate recruits on the road during the spring. The idea is to prevent ?bump-ins? between coaches and recruits when the coaches are out talking to the high school coaches.
Not only can coaches no longer hit the road, but they are now restricted to only one phone call to prospects during this time period and only one evaluation of athletic ability.
The rule also prevents coaches from checking up on the player?s character and personality with teachers, coaches, and counselors, something that each coach is roasted about when a player is arrested or gets suspended.
This rule is believed to have been put in place to prevent two SEC coaches, Nick Saban and Urban Meyer, who have both had No. 1 recruiting class in the past, from ?gaining an advantage? on the recruiting trail. Both coaches used to travel furiously during the spring to go to as many schools as possible to evaluate as many kids as possible.
The rule rewards coaches who did not want to put forth the effort to get recruits and hurts those who put in all the time and effort to gain recruits.
There is no definite answer as to whether or not coaches gained an advantage through this aspect of recruiting, but many coaches are not happy about this new rule.
?I don?t want to sound like a jerk,? USC head coach Pete Carroll said, ?but other coaches?are just lazy."
Nick Saban wasn?t as brief as Carroll this morning when asked about how the rule will affect him this off-season.
?I think it?s ridiculous that we?re doing what we?re doing,? Saban said. ?When you're talking about developing relationships and knowing players and meeting guidance counselors and talking to principals and all those kind of things, I think we're put ourselves at a tremendous disadvantage in terms of evaluation.
?I think we?ve really limited ourselves by what we?ve done, and I totally disagree with it.?

Entire article: "The Saban Rule" Changes the Landscape of the Spring Evaluation Period | Bleacher Report
 
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jwinslow;1141170; said:
Videos | ABC 33/40 News

Saban gets defensive when asked to explain how he'll handle oversigning (32 recruits, 25 per class limit.... also over 85 total limit).
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I guess he now has one less to worry about:

Nats draft pick agrees, passes up Alabama football - MLB - Yahoo! Sports

Nats draft pick agrees, passes up Alabama football

WASHINGTON (AP)?Second-round draft pick Destin Hood agreed to terms on a contract with the Washington Nationals on Thursday, bypassing playing college football at Alabama.
Hood had signed a letter of intent to play for the Crimson Tide.
Instead, he will begin his professional baseball career with Washington?s Gulf Coast League affiliate in Viera, Fla.

The 6-foot-2, 185-pound Hood played football and baseball at St. Paul?s Episcopal High School in Mobile, Ala. An outfielder, he hit .485 with eight homers, 32 RBIs and 17 steals as a senior.

He started at defensive back and wide receiver in football. He caught 56 passes for 995 yards and 15 touchdowns as a senior.
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