NFL Players by Conference/School/State

[shiznit7]

Which would you rather have, two first-rounders every year or a couple of MNC's per decade? Me, I'll take the MNC's any day and twice on Saturdays.

I'll take both but in all seriousness, there is certainly a correlation between the two (Captain Obvious award, thank you). I think one of the unnamed findings in this piece shows that while the SEC is certainly the most talented conference, oversigning is incredibly prevalent and it skews their numbers for the worse. Just today, Alabama greyshirted a 4* Center because he's "injured." That guy would probably compete for playing time at most other schools and certainly not be greyshirted anywhere else. For players on teams who recruit the honest way, their chances of making it to the NFL are raised by sheer statistics.

 

[Jaxbuck]

I like that - sundae/toppings. I agree, it's mostly the way you look at it.

You Nebraska guys are going to have to learn the proper response to SEC fans is always "The SEC cheats/sucks, oversigning!, inbred rednecks" or just "fuck you".

You are in the B10 now, time to step up your game.

 

[knapplc]

I'll do whatever you say, Jax, as long as you keep that avatar. Smoking.




One thing we can all agree on is that the $EC sucks ass. I'm terribly unimpressed with the $EC. I think Nebraska is 7-1 against them in bowl games in the last 30 years, or some such number.

 

[Jaxbuck]

One thing we can all agree on is that the $EC sucks ass.

There is so much truth to this it makes me wonder if anything else needs be said? Ever.

We may have reached the last post on the interwebs here.

 

[BB73]

I'll do whatever you say, Jax, as long as you keep that avatar. Smoking.




One thing we can all agree on is that the $EC sucks ass. I'm terribly unimpressed with the $EC. I think Nebraska is 7-1 against them in bowl games in the last 30 years, or some such number.

That was worth looking up. The Huskers are 11-2 in bowls against SEC teams since the 1969 season, with the last 2 losses coming in the only meetings over the last 10 seasons.

On this board we'll be happy to roll that into the cumulative B1G-SEC bowl records.

But if we're doing that, we'll need to include the 1-3 record before 1969, including a loss to Arkansas who wasn't in the SEC back then. So it comes to 12-5 in bowls against all teams currently in the SEC.

 

[Gatorubet]

They punish the [Mark May] out of programs with high turnover, i.e., low retention rates/high transfers/ "oversigning", etc.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

They punish the [Mark May] out of programs with high turnover, i.e., low retention rates/high transfers/ "oversigning", etc.

Which they should...

 

[Gatorubet]

Which they should...

Not really debating that, but as this is a "how best to get you the NFL", the academics should mean [Mark May]. Bama just had four first round picks and is sitting at #36 behind a bunch of schools that have not sniffed anywhere near that level of success. Just saying there may be a methodology disconnect on the listing. But I don't care enough to look into it.

Nice recruiting candy though. Kudos.

 

[muffler dragon]

Not really debating that, but as this is a "how best to get you the NFL", the academics should mean [Mark May]. Bama just had four first round picks and is sitting at #36 behind a bunch of schools that have not sniffed anywhere near that level of success. Just saying there may be a methodology disconnect on the listing. But I don't care enough to look into it.

Nice recruiting candy though. Kudos.

I don't know if it makes a difference, but the article said they went back to 2002. Bama hasn't been relevant during that entire time.

 

[scott91575]

I think there is a part of the analysis missing. Recruiting services due a poor job of evaluating talent in the Midwest. While development certainly plays a role, having players start out with lower ratings certainly helps the perception that they developed better. Yet the case may be they simply were not evaluated correctly by the recruiting services.

 

[ulukinatme]

The site seems to be down or something, can't view the article, but links to other sites seem to say good things about OSU/Big 10 :) Someone at the ElevenWarriors site mentioned this was interesting info coming out as Big 10 players are often underrated in drafts. When you think about it, Big 10 consistantly puts out great defensive prospects and O-linemen with those hard nosed running games.

Anyone have another link to this from a different site?
[Edit] Nevermind, found this one, I think it's the same: http://yallsports.com/2011/05/the-b...nces-at-developing-recruits-into-nfl-players/

Interesting, I expected ND to be lower after being down for so long, but they've done ok at #26 when considering drafts since 2002. It's surprising to see Florda State so low, even in some up and down years with Bowden I always thought they did well in drafts (They do have a high number of drafts, not sure what brings them down, the development side?). I'm also surprised to see Conneticut and Wake Forest so high with only 11 and 10 recruits coming out of those places. I'm not sure I can think of any Pros from either place. The least surprising thing here is that Big 10 got high marks overall and especially high marks for defense, while Big 12 got low marks for defense. When I think Big 12 I see a lot of high powered offenses scoring 50+ a game on paper thin defenses.

 

[Muck]

Unfortunately the various "what Region/State/Conference/School produces the most talent" seem to be split up among a bunch of different threads discussing various tangents on the topic so I'm just going to throw this here...

Where Do The Best College Football Players Come From?

**Beware: lots of pretty maps and not-so-pretty statistics ahead**

Back in the home stretch of recruiting season, SI.com recruiting guru Andy Staples wrote a fascinating article on where elite (i.e. NFL) defensive linemen come from, finding that a startling number of them hail from the South. Staples went on to explore factors like evolutionary theory and obesity rates as possible explanations for this phenomenon, but I remained fascinated by just how strikingly South-heavy his map was.

This made me curious: Is this just a defensive line thing, or do all of college football's elite players predominantly come from the South? So I set out to do just what Staples did, only for every offensive position. Here's what I found: Every offensive player in the NFL, mapped by high school, grouped by college conference. (You can zoom in and out, click on the conference tags at the bottom to sort by conference, and click on each pin to get info for individual players.)

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Once we break things down to the state level, we see yet another layer of the picture. Here are the top five states for producing elite offensive talent:

California - 13.8%
Texas - 12%
Florida - 8.1%
Ohio - 5.3%
Louisiana - 4.4%
...
Nebraska - 0.5%

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Here's each state's production of offensive NFL players, compared with their overall population; in short, the higher the number, the higher proportion of elite players your state pumps out. Positive numbers mean you're above average; negative means you're below. (States with less than 1% of the nation's population weren't included, since the numbers are just too small to calculate well.)

Louisiana 193%
Mississippi 90%
Texas 50%
Alabama 40%
Ohio 39%
Florida 35%
Oklahoma 33%
New Jersey 21%
Iowa 20%
Tennessee 19%
California 15%
Virginia 15%
Colorado 13%
Minnesota 12%
South Carolina 7%
Georgia 6%
Connecticut 0%
Pennsylvania -2%
Michigan -15%
Arizona -18%
Indiana -29%
Missouri -30%
North Carolina -32%
Oregon -34%
Illinois -40%
Maryland -42%
Wisconsin -44%
Washington -50%
Kentucky -57%
Massachusetts -68%
New York -70%

.../snip/...

PA is shocking low on that list.

 

[muffler dragon]

Felt strange to see HtM.

 

[korchiki]

I'd like to see the High School to College to Pro list. For example, how many kids from Glenville went to tOSU then to the pros.

 

[Muck]

I'd like to see the High School to College to Pro list. For example, how many kids from Glenville went to tOSU then to the pros.

There have been threads about it in the past.

IIRC Long Beach Poly was the clear #1. Belle Glades Central was #2 or close to it.

Pompano Beach-Ely, Torrey Pines & a school in IL were also on the list.