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NFL Players by Conference/School/State

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TheIronColonel;1146382; said:
It's interesting, but not terribly informative. The state figures aren't normalized, the number of picks per conference aren't normalized (e.g. the SEC has more teams than any other BCS conference), etc.
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Agreed. I think it should be obvious that states in closer proximity to college football hotbeds are more heavily recruited, more heavily scouted, and therefore produce more talent. California has 7 D-IA schools, Texas 10, Florida 7, and Ohio 8, so I don't think it's coincidence that these big states are also where the talent comes from. Same for states like Pennsylvania, Virginia....they're populated by a few D-IA schools and surrounded by tons more.

Case in point: New York. It's huge - even without NYC proper it'd be the 6th largest state, ahead of Ohio. But it's barely noticed in football recruiting. Only 3 D-IA schools, only 1 of which is actually serious about it. And it gets beat by tons of states in terms of talent: Michigan, North Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia, all way smaller. Basketball recruiting, though, New York is king. It's a recruiting factory. I respectfully submit that it has something to do with the no less than 21 schools in the state that play D-I basketball, which I believe is the most of any state.

So I just spent two paragraphs stating the obvious. Also there's this: marginal talent in recruiting-heavy states gets picked up by someone, equal talent in the boonies does not. If there's a marginal three-star prospect in Florida (maybe ESPN has him rated 71, 72, say) and Coach Bigshot comes in from State U. to look at someone else, he might notice this three-star guy as he's watching Johnny Superstar. The HS coach might point him out. Coach Bigshot is not gonna make the same trip to New Mexico or Vermont to see that talent, but he would get noticed in Florida. So it's skewed even more toward the hotbeds.
 
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Top 10 Football Factories: NFL Network

Just caught a show on NFL network where they counted down the top 10 fooball factories. Here is a list as well as a few highlights from each team that I could remember.

10. Tennessee: Payton Manning, Reggie White, Albert Haynesworth
9. The MAC Conference: Randy Moss, Ben Roethlisberger, Chad Pennington, Countless Coaches
8. Syracuse: Donovan McNabb, Marvin Harrison, Dwight Freeney
7. Penn State: 5 HOF, 34 Pro Bowlers, Linebackers
6. Alabama: Derrick Thomas, Shawn Alexander, Namath, Starr, Forest Gump, 6 HOF
5. Michigan: QB's, Rich Eisen?, DB's, 7 HOF, 36 Pro Bowlers
4. Ohio State: Pace, Carter, WR's, LB's, 53 Pro Bowlers
3. Notre Dame: Montana, Tim Brown, Bettis, Theisman,
2. Miami: Pretty huge list of players most relatively recent.
1. USC: 11 HOF, 59 Pro Bowlers, OJ, Marcus Allen


Didn't know that Rich Eisen was a Michigan douche. He cried that Tom Brady alone is worth more than all tOSU alumni. They did make note of tOSU's failure to produce successful QB's.

Can't say I argue with the list too much. The Big Ten put more than any other conference and if you add the MAC and ND in there, the Midwest pretty well dominated putting guys in the league.
 
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rock454;1454242; said:
Just caught a show on NFL network where they counted down the top 10 fooball factories. Here is a list as well as a few highlights from each team that I could remember.

10. Tennessee: Payton Manning, Reggie White, Albert Haynesworth
9. The MAC Conference: Randy Moss, Ben Roethlisberger, Chad Pennington, Countless Coaches
8. Syracuse: Donovan McNabb, Marvin Harrison, Dwight Freeney
7. Penn State: 5 HOF, 34 Pro Bowlers, Linebackers
6. Alabama: Derrick Thomas, Shawn Alexander, Namath, Starr, Forest Gump, 6 HOF
5. Michigan: QB's, Rich Eisen?, DB's, 7 HOF, 36 Pro Bowlers
4. Ohio State: Pace, Carter, WR's, LB's, 53 Pro Bowlers
3. Notre Dame: Montana, Tim Brown, Bettis, Theisman,
2. Miami: Pretty huge list of players most relatively recent.
1. USC: 11 HOF, 59 Pro Bowlers, OJ, Marcus Allen


Didn't know that Rich Eisen was a Michigan douche. He cried that Tom Brady alone is worth more than all tOSU alumni. They did make note of tOSU's failure to produce successful QB's.

Can't say I argue with the list too much. The Big Ten put more than any other conference and if you add the MAC and ND in there, the Midwest pretty well dominated putting guys in the league.
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Though it's true that tOSU has failed in sending QB's to the leauge, I thought it strange that there wasn't any other school singled out for a particular position of weakness. Also thought it was bullshit that they put the MAC on the list. It's a whole fucking conference for fucks sake.
 
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Off of that list, OSU and USC are the only ones that are still putting guys in the league at a high rate. Penn State is still contributing it's fair share and 'Bama may be on it's way back up, but for the most part the teams on that list have stalled out.
 
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Yeah, Rich was a douche that whole show. The discussion begins and ends with Tom Brady? Fuck you. M*ch*g*n can't touch our success.

I didn't think it was fair USC got so much credit for their success under Pete Carroll and they didn't even mention Tressel.

Pretty entertaining show overall.
 
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Syracuse makes the list and Florida State doesn't?

The other thing worth noting to me is that 3 solid programs in the Big 12 aren't mentioned. But in terms of producing NFL players, Texas/Oklahoma/Nebraska don't put players into the league as much as would be expected.
 
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BB73;1454466; said:
Syracuse makes the list and Florida State doesn't?

The other thing worth noting to me is that 3 solid programs in the Big 12 aren't mentioned. But in terms of producing NFL players, Texas/Oklahoma/Nebraska don't put players into the league as much as would be expected.
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I'd kick out the MAC before Syracuse. That was just dumb.
 
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y0yoyoin;1702036; said:
College to NFL pipeline: Which school is best? - ESPN

Bracket: Best college to NFL Pipeline - ESPN

Interesting that we are a #12 seed especially after the talent we have put into the NFL the past decade alone
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Two main points to consider:

1.) They're focusing on how the players do once in the league, not the numbers of players schools have drafted. Current powerhouses Texas and Oklahoma aren't even in the top 25 despite putting a ton of players in the league.

2.) It covers far more than the last decade or so (at least from the late-'70s/early-'80s onward). Cases in point are Notre Dame, with Joe Montana being used as an example, and Pittsburgh, having Dan Marino listed.
 
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tOSU vs Tennessee
AND THE WINNER IS ?


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The Buckeyes win on sheer volume.
Peyton Manning is an extremely formidable opponent, but he can't do it alone. Clearly, Ohio State cannot compare at the quarterback position, but its offensive linemen are extremely impressive. The Buckeyes just bring more to the table on a position-by-position overview.
I will contend that Tennessee has a little more NFL upside based on the past handful of draft classes. If these two meet again a few years down the road, the results might be different. For this battle, it is just too difficult to go against Ohio State's volume in favor of what is pretty much a one-man show for the Vols.

-- Matt Williamson
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MililaniBuckeye;1702043; said:
Two main points to consider:

1.) They're focusing on how the players do once in the league, not the numbers of players schools have drafted. Current powerhouses Texas and Oklahoma aren't even in the top 25 despite putting a ton of players in the league.

2.) It covers far more than the last decade or so (at least from the late-'70s/early-'80s onward). Cases in point are Notre Dame, with Joe Montana being used as an example, and Pittsburgh, having Dan Marino listed.
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You're right, but I still don't see how, for instance, an Arizona State gets a higher seed.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;1702043; said:
Two main points to consider:

1.) They're focusing on how the players do once in the league, not the numbers of players schools have drafted. Current powerhouses Texas and Oklahoma aren't even in the top 25 despite putting a ton of players in the league.

2.) It covers far more than the last decade or so (at least from the late-'70s/early-'80s onward). Cases in point are Notre Dame, with Joe Montana being used as an example, and Pittsburgh, having Dan Marino listed.
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yah i noticed that but still think we should be seeded higher then #12...in particular ahead of ASU and possibly penn st...ohio st's next matchup is with florida st who should for sure win
 
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