NFL Discussion (Official Thread)

[Buckeneye]

1. No it didn't. That was a time line indicator, not a cause and effect indicator. Since Tyreek left, Mahomes has regressed as a passer.

Why would Tyreek be relevant to this conversation if it wasnt cause and effect?

Otherwise you would have just said "Patrick Mahomes has regressed these past few years".

Less down field things, more Mickey Mouse bullshit that I despise.

Tyreek is gone and the OL has taken hits along with age. Less weapons and less time to push the ball vertically. Hence the things I pointed out...

- increased 21 personnel usage
- decreased depth of target
- more need for conversions and high percentage throws because the vertical game is gone.
- increased 1st down conversions percentage and plays per drive.

These things aren't just "blah blah blah stats" they tie directly into what you just said above.

2. I'm not saying they have talent beyond all other teams. I'm saying it's different, not all worldly. The Lions have talent all over the field in other areas, so they don't do things the way the Chiefs do. The Patriots with Tom Brady had different talent. The Raiders have 0 talent, so they can't do any of it. Just because I'm saying they have unique talent, doesn't mean I'm saying they have more talent than anybody. Specifically, they have Andy Reid and....until the last 2 years.....Kelce.

This makes no sense. You're just moving goal-posts. The Chiefs don't have unique talent, not anymore. I asked you why other teams with superior or comparable talent haven't done the same, and this word salad was your response. It's a non-answer at best.


Ok, I just have to come out with it - are you trolling me? Only thing that makes sense anymore.

Can anyone else who's reading along chime in and tell me that I'm the crazy one here? I know there's plenty of people reading.

Because it seems like your angle is to be intentionally obtuse.

You've still yet to answer the simple question - why Fields can't handle the exact same same rub concepts and RPOs that Mahomes does regularly? Why can't Fields connect on the same plays he's been given from pre-season until now?

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

Why would Tyreek be relevant to this conversation if it wasnt cause and effect?

Otherwise you would have just said "Patrick Mahomes has regressed these past few years".

Because I didn't know how many years, so I picked a point in time that was semi recent. I didn't know I was going to have to defend my dissertation to justify my existence.

This makes no sense. You're just moving goal-posts. The Chiefs don't have unique talent, not anymore.

Maybe not to you.
No I'm not.
And yes they do. They have Andy Reid. Or whatever gremlin Andy Reid is stealing his ideas from.

Ok, I just have to come out with it - are you trolling me? Only thing that makes sense anymore.

Can anyone else who's reading along chime in and tell me that I'm the crazy one here? I know there's plenty of people reading.

Because it seems like your angle is to be intentionally obtuse.

Ignoring you being a dick, again.

You've still yet to answer the simple question - why Fields can't handle the exact same same rub concepts and RPOs that Mahomes does regularly? Why can't Fields connect on the same plays he's been given from pre-season until now?

I don't believe he's allowed to just snap and throw. Only he and the coaches in the room would know that. I watched him excel at Ohio State, so to my dipshit trolling obtuse Dunning Kruger point of view, the problem with NFL Fields is the speed of the game. Me being an absolute fucking moron that isn't worthy of sharing the same website as you thinks that he's taking too long to process, and waiting to see that people are open before throwing the ball. So my dumb fucking worthless piece of shit ass thought maybe if you completely remove the need to make reads, he'd process a little big quicker and be able to pass for more than 45 yards in a game. Maybe if he was allowed to make throws like this or this or this or this he'd crack the 50 yard mark. But I'm just a dumb asshole that is annoyed when Mahomes gets credit for being Dan Marino when an 80 yard bomb actually travels 5 yards in the air and the blocking and WR do the actual work.

OK maybe I lied. I didn't ignore it. Dickhead.