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Nebraska -3.5 at Penn St (ov/un 43.5) Sat Noon ET, ESPN (maybe)

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Jack Mitchell, local radio personality, just got done interviewing Tom Osborne. Via Twitter:

Just spoke with Tom Osborne and he told me that right now, the game is on as planned, but he hasn't heard from PSUs AD or Jim Delaney yet.

My perception is that there's still the possibility this game doesn't happen pending Osborne's contact with PSU and Delany.

Osborne told us moving the game isn't feasible at this point.

As I left Coach Osborne's office, Bo Pelini went in for a closed door meeting, for what I'd presume is a discussion about playing the game.

Tom Osborne also told me that he's never said this before, but he'd understand if Husker fans chose to wear something other than red at PSU.
 
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Can PSU, the Big 10, and NCAA guarantee the safety of all fans, coaches and players Satrurday? If something stupid happens Sat. and the incidents on campus the past few days show it is possible..the liabilty for the Powers that let this game happen will be unlimited. It would take the Nat. Guard to have a shot for a safe game. PSU has in the past been given a pass on questionable behavior on the strength of Paternos reputation. That is all gone now..
 
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I would think the only thing that would require a "forfeit" would be if, as a previous poster said, safety could not be ensured.

Too late to go to a neutral field. I had read that if Penn State chooses to forfeit the season, they would have to compensate tOSU and Wussconsin. That would be a pretty astronomical number.

I would imagine they end up playing the game, something breaks out in the stands and it gets called before it's finished. Can we add "Game called because of rioting that occurred after kickoff"? :)
 
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BlufftonBuckeye;2032499; said:
I would think the only thing that would require a "forfeit" would be if, as a previous poster said, safety could not be ensured.

Too late to go to a neutral field. I had read that if Penn State chooses to forfeit the season, they would have to compensate tOSU and Wussconsin. That would be a pretty astronomical number.

I would imagine they end up playing the game, something breaks out in the stands and it gets called before it's finished. Can we add "Game called because of rioting that occurred after kickoff"? :)
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It would be a pretty simple matter, IMHO... the BoT would cancel, there would be some sort of lawsuit over breach of contract (not sure if games are run through B1G or if direct between schools, my guess is through B1G membership), there would be a settlement out of court.

The victims' civil suits to come will likely be more than the price of a few games.

Now, they would likely face bigger problems with ESPN/Disney, in terms of their first/second tier rights to the football games... not sure if those have been definitively scheduled yet, and they might be able to demand damages.
 
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Woody1968;2032437; said:
Because they are generally innocent in this whole matter. I say "generally," because they were stupid enough to go to PSU in the first place.
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Again, how is their situation different than any other team whose coach got fired while they were there? Who were embarrassed for things that took place before they were there?

Are you advocating that kids should always get to transfer if their coach is dismissed? If so, I disagree.
 
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knapplc;2032501; said:
At HuskerBoard we have Penn State alums posting outrage that we would feel concerned for the safety of our team and fans visiting Happy Valley Saturday.
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I saw where Tom Osborne stated he understood if Nebraska fans didn't wear red at the game.

Mind boggling.
 
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Jake;2032510; said:
Again, how is their situation different than any other team whose coach got fired while they were there? Who were embarrassed for things that took place before they were there?

Are you advocating that kids should always get to transfer if their coach is dismissed? If so, I disagree.
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A fair question. I think that the actions (and inactions) of Penn State football program leaders and university administrators created a situation where the program deserves to be punished. And the program should bear the punishment, not any current players who no longer want to be there.

It's somewhat similar to the USC situation, where players were allowed to transfer without penalty. Admitedly, there is still a real difference between USC and PSU, because the NCAA has not yet ruled on any potential NCAA violations for PSU, although that could happen as more things are uncovered in this mess. There is a similarity to the Baylor basketball situation, where the NCAA gave transfer waivers to players after the mess where 1 player killed another one, and the school self-imposed some sanctions.

All of those situations are different from a normal coaching change, brought about because of a guy being canned for lack of performance or leaving to take a better position.
 
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Woody1968;2032341; said:
You are correct, of course, and I was wrong. I'm still not used to having a conference championship game. I would not put it past the BoT to consider the forfeit, but that would probably make the students reaction worse. Regardless, if you are a Nebraska fan going to this game, be careful.
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I'm fearful for the Nebraska players and coaches going into this environment, with the idiot students rioting as they did last night. The game could go either way, but one thing you can bet on, anyone from Nebraska is going to be treated horribly there Saturday. I'm sure glad I hadn't made any plans and spent any money on plans to attend that game, because there's no way I'd go within 100 miles of that place this week.
 
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DallasHusker;2032521; said:
I'm fearful for the Nebraska players and coaches going into this environment, with the idiot students rioting as they did last night. The game could go either way, but one thing you can bet on, anyone from Nebraska is going to be treated horribly there Saturday. I'm sure glad I hadn't made any plans and spent any money on plans to attend that game, because there's no way I'd go within 100 miles of that place this week.
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Absolutely. Happy Valley is the opposite of Lincoln. Every game day starts with a riot. There is no trash like Penn State trash.
 
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Jake;2032510; said:
Again, how is their situation different than any other team whose coach got fired while they were there? Who were embarrassed for things that took place before they were there?

Are you advocating that kids should always get to transfer if their coach is dismissed? If so, I disagree.
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Absolutely not.

However, this situation is not like any I can ever recall. I could certainly see how it would be difficult to put on a uniform to represent a school that had been covering up for a child rapist over the past 15 years. Furthermore, we are seriously discussing whether or not PSU should even play another game in 2011. Why should these players have to suffer the consequences for the criminal and morally repugnant actions of the university, since their eligibility to play has never been in question?
 
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BB73;2032519; said:
A fair question. I think that the actions (and inactions) of Penn State football program leaders and university administrators created a situation where the program deserves to be punished. And the program should bear the punishment, not any current players who no longer want to be there.

It's somewhat similar to the USC situation, where players were allowed to transfer without penalty. Admitedly, there is still a real difference between USC and PSU, because the NCAA has not yet ruled on any potential NCAA violations for PSU, although that could happen as more things are uncovered in this mess. There is a similarity to the Baylor basketball situation, where the NCAA gave transfer waivers to players after the mess where 1 player killed another one, and the school self-imposed some sanctions.

All of those situations are different from a normal coaching change, brought about because of a guy being canned for lack of performance or leaving to take a better position.
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With USC, there was less of an incentive to allow the players to transfer, because they knew about the possible sanctions when they chose to commit. In this case, I doubt any of the recruits would think to have asked McQueary or JoPa, "Say, I'd like to commit to play here, but I want to know if you allow ex coaches to rape little kids in the same facilities that we use,"
 
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