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NCAA - slowly ruining football (rules changes - merged)

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Jaxbuck;2305133; said:
You can't give part time refs the ability to eject players based on a real time judgement call and no replay.

You just can't do it.
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You're right. Even competent part-timers are still going to make mistakes. Unfortunately, Big Ten refs aren't competent either.
 
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holy shit

this rule just got worse, I didn't realize that if you do this in the 2nd half, you're ejected from the 1st half the NEXT game


Could you imagine someone in the Conf title game doing this in the 2nd half, and is now sitting out first half of national title game?
 
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BB73;2305167; said:
I remember that play - it was a great block by the Husker WR Kenny Bell.

Kenny Bell Huge Block - YouTube
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KB blew his ass up. Glorious. But then, in the SAME GAME, the SAME REFS didn't throw a flag on THIS call:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmYb2s3cUuI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmYb2s3cUuI[/ame]

Then, there was this one from a couple years ago...LOL

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XtX5Z5vyMs"]WTF?!?[/ame]
 
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NCAA wants to crack down on head-cracking hits

The difference between a legal hit and an illegal one in football is often determined by inches and seconds.

A proposed rule change by the NCAA could make those inches and seconds even more important in college football.

A player who delivers a hit to the head of a defenseless opponent could be kicked out of the game next season under an NCAA proposal that took a step forward Wednesday.

Consider this another high-profile step in the universal effort to make football less dangerous and cut down the risk of head injuries. The future of football became a hot topic again in the lead up to the Super Bowl when President Barack Obama said if he had a son "he'd think long and hard" before letting him play the game. He also voiced concern about whether the NCAA was doing enough to help college players deal with long-term health issues that come from playing football.

The NFL has been cracking down on helmet hits in recent seasons, handing out more frequent fines and even suspensions. But those penalties are determined days later, after the play has been reviewed.

Under the NCAA Football Rules Committee proposal, video replay will be used to determine the ejection part of the penalty, but that call will be made immediately.

And that's troubling to some coaches.

New Temple coach Matt Rhule, who spent the past last year as an assistant with the New York Giants, said it might be asking too much of replay officials to conduct a thorough review of a complex play that could result in a player losing the right to participate.

"That seems a high price to pay for something that we're not sure of," Rhule said in a telephone interview Wednesday night.

The rules committee said it had unanimously approved strengthening of the penalty for intentional above-the-shoulder hits. The 15-yard penalty will now have an ejection tacked on, assuming the Playing Rules Oversight Panel approves the plan next month.

"Clearly if the guy's head is down and he's launching into a receiver with the top of his head, that should be a penalty," Arizona coach Rich Rodriguez said. "You hate for somebody to get penalized for just a good hard hit."

Player safety was the theme of the committee's three-day meeting in Indianapolis, with the ejection for targeting the most noticeable change fans will notice in 2013 across all NCAA divisions. The committee also tweaked the rule on below-the-waist blocks.

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If the penalty occurs in the first half, the player would be ejected for the remainder of the game. If the penalty occurs in the second half or overtime, the player is ejected for the remainder of the game and the first half of the next game.

The rule would allow for the ejection portion of the penalty to be reviewed through video replay. The replay official must have conclusive evidence that the penalized player didn't intentionally target a defenseless player in order to overturn the call on the field. Calhoun said the 15-yard portion of the penalty would not be reviewable.

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Really, really not a big fan of the bolded section.

ESPN's article covers some of the other new rules:

Ejections for illegal hits proposed

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The committee also attempted to simplify the blocking-below-the-waist rule, which was found to be unevenly enforced and difficult to teach to officials, Calhoun said. Now low blocks delivered from in front of the defender anywhere on the field are legal and low blocks from the side or back are not.

Previously, whether a player could block below the waist depended on his position at the snap, whether he was stationary or which direction he was moving after the snap.

The contrasting colors rule would appear to target Boise State.

The Broncos like to wear all-blue uniforms while playing on their blue home turf. The rule would prevent players from being "camouflaged," Calhoun said.

Opposing coaches have complained that the Broncos' all-blue uniforms make it difficult to prepare for games at Boise because it's hard to differentiate Broncos' players against the blue backdrop.

The rule, of course, also would apply to teams that wear all green uniforms on green turf or, in Eastern Washington's case, all red on its red turf.

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Other proposed rules from the NCAA include:
- Adding a 10-second runoff with less than a minute remaining in either half when the sole reason for the clock to stop is an injury. Calhoun said the intent is to prevent players from faking injuries to stop the clock.
- Establishing 3 seconds as the minimum amount of time required to be on the game clock in order to spike the ball to stop the clock.
- Allowing the use of electronic communication by the on-field officiating crew. Such devises were used successfully in an experiment in the Southeastern Conference. The equipment would not be required.
- Allowing the Big 12 to experiment with using an eighth official on the field in conference games. This official would be placed in the backfield opposite the referee and, according to Calhoun, would add another set of eyes to detect holding on the offensive line.
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1. The bolded change means that now defensive players will be able to fake injuries in order to run out the clock. How is that an improvement?

2. Fuck Boise State
 
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Muck;2305475; said:
NCAA wants to crack down on head-cracking hits

Really, really not a big fan of the bolded section.

ESPN's article covers some of the other new rules:

Ejections for illegal hits proposed

1. The bolded change means that now defensive players will be able to fake injuries in order to run out the clock. How is that an improvement?

2. [censored] Boise State
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If it's anything similar to the rule about a penalty under 1 minute, it will probably only be for the offensive team.
 
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Laughable yet par for the course. Proving intent is the only recourse?

Like what, a mic analyzing his remorse and seemingly private comments after making the hit? A heartbeat monitor to judge their honesty in their protests to the ref?
 
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Bernard Pollard put it best when he said in 20 years we won't be able to recognize the sport.

Again, these guys are paid handsomely to play the game, and they understand the risks. As long as teams aren't hiding future repercussions and are honest about the damage players are taking, it seems really counter-productive to change the game.

The NFL has become almost unwatchable for me, because poor throws leading into the defense are rewarded with 15 yard penalties or worse, completions because defenders know they can't hit a defenseless receiver. Too many games have been altered by 15 yard penalties on hits to receivers or QB's. It's more frustrating to watch than enjoyable.

To date, college hasn't been as bad as the NFL on these rules, but it sounds like they're about to go even a step further. It's going to be painful to watch the Buckeyes in a tight game at some point, lose their starting safety on a good hit trying to dislodge the receiver from the football. And the officials and replay officials just aren't good enough to determine clean vs. illegal.

This will be a horse abortion.
 
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billmac91;2305507; said:
The NFL has become almost unwatchable for me, because poor throws leading into the defense are rewarded with 15 yard penalties or worse, completions because defenders know they can't hit a defenseless receiver. Too many games have been altered by 15 yard penalties on hits to receivers or QB's. It's more frustrating to watch than enjoyable.
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Just wait till Spence is chasing, and Morris is running for his life, talk about poor throws. I think defenders should get the benefit of some kind of "halo rule" though. No player should face expulsion from a game for simply turning around and making contact.
 
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http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsport...nce-on-targeting-when-in-doubt-throw-him-out/

B1G taking a very, very aggressive stance on targeting this year. This rule change is going to be rolled out to all NCAA Football, but the rules team within the Big 10 said fans should "prepare for ejections"

Seems like this is really going to screw some teams over.
Of course I would have loved this last year when Quinton Dials absolutely blasted Aaron Murray in the SEC Championship game.


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGLtoKL3dvI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGLtoKL3dvI[/ame]
 
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