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MLB General Discussion (Official Thread)



The changes to the game don't bother me. Not playing the games is quite disappointing, not going to lie.

After all this COVID disruption to our lives, it's really a bad timing for MLB/MLBPA to pull this. A "normal" spring would damn sure of been nice.

I know business is business and I don't begrudge them their money or judge them for fighting to get theirs, as it were. My frustration comes from them having such a low level of trust between the two organizations that they can't solve any CBA issues without a work stoppage. That's poor leadership on both sides and a breathtaking lack of awareness among the rank and file of both sides. A couple of thousand people can't divvy up billions without having to use lockouts and strikes? Absurd.
 
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They lost me back in 95 when they did this crap last time…

ok, I’ll be the picky prick who points out that you probably meant ‘94, not ‘95. In ‘94 the players walked out on strike in early August. World Series was cancelled.

No agreement was reached over the winter and ‘95 Spring Training started with replacement players. Players and owners settled in early April and season was delayed until the regular players completed a second Spring Training. The ‘95 season concluded with the Indians losing to the Braves in the World Series.
 
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ok, I’ll be the picky prick who points out that you probably meant ‘94, not ‘95. In ‘94 the players walked out on strike in early August. World Series was cancelled.

No agreement was reached over the winter and ‘95 Spring Training started with replacement players. Players and owners settled in early April and season was delayed until the regular players completed a second Spring Training. The ‘95 season concluded with the Indians losing to the Braves in the World Series.
Forget it. He was rolling.
 
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Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel this dumbfucks have no idea what they are doing to themselves and the sport. Television rights via the RSNs is a major revenue stream for the sport and that stream is tanking. Financially they're heading for a meltdown. When Disney sold the RSNs, they originally wanted $20 billion for them, but only got 10. Since the onset of "cord cutting" the old model of "you'll get cable and pay what we tell you or you get nothing" is coming home to roost for them. Some teams, who saw RSNs as a golden goose, signed long term (read: 20 years) contracts, some of which are only half over. With each person who "cuts the cord" they lose more money and the value of the RSNs decreases.

Baseball was headed for a financial crisis BEFORE these idiots (who must still be living in the past) decided to fuck the game up even more.

This won't end well for them.
 
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Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel this dumbfucks have no idea what they are doing to themselves and the sport. Television rights via the RSNs is a major revenue stream for the sport and that stream is tanking. Financially they're heading for a meltdown. When Disney sold the RSNs, they originally wanted $20 billion for them, but only got 10. Since the onset of "cord cutting" the old model of "you'll get cable and pay what we tell you or you get nothing" is coming home to roost for them. Some teams, who saw RSNs as a golden goose, signed long term (read: 20 years) contracts, some of which are only half over. With each person who "cuts the cord" they lose more money and the value of the RSNs decreases.

Baseball was headed for a financial crisis BEFORE these idiots (who must still be living in the past) decided to fuck the game up even more.

This won't end well for them.

It sucks because it's such a great sport.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but Manfred may actually be the worst commissioner of all major North American sport leagues. Even worse than Goodell, a feat that I had previously thought was impossible.
 
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And they've fucked themselves in other ways too. In an effort to totally press their monopoly, they set up these insane rules to control who watches their product and in the process alienated their customers. I mean, you can get a subscription to stream all MLB games from MLB.tv EXCEPT THE HOME TEAM. That's the vast majority! If I relied on non-fans of the home team to make money...well...that's not what I consider a good business model.
 
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It sucks because it's such a great sport.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but Manfred may actually be the worst commissioner of all major North American sport leagues. Even worse than Goodell, a feat that I had previously thought was impossible.
I can't disagree. Say what you want about the NFL, but they control their product as a group. Even distribution of funds, all TV contracts negotiated for the good of the whole. Competitive balance goes as far as intelligent moves (and maybe a little luck) takes them.

Now, let's look at baseball. I have no confidence that Cleveland will ever be in a situation to win the championship. And even if somehow it does happen, it won't be sustainable.
 
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Here is what I'm talking about

https://www.techdirt.com/2021/10/19...es-in-market-even-without-cable-subscription/

In 2019, Sinclair’s Diamond Sports subsidiary paid $9.6 billion for the Fox Regional Sports Networks, since rebranded to Bally’s, giving it exclusive rights to the 14 MLB teams, 16 NBA teams, and 12 NHL teams. It borrowed a staggering $8 billion to fund the deal, sources said. Since then, Dish, Hulu and YouTube TV have stopped carrying the Bally’s RSNs, even as revenue from existing distribution deals has been slammed by cord cutting and subscriber declines. An August Moody’s Investors Service report found that Sinclair “now has an unsustainable capital structure given its very high leverage and weak liquidity.”
 
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And they've fucked themselves in other ways too. In an effort to totally press their monopoly, they set up these insane rules to control who watches their product and in the process alienated their customers. I mean, you can get a subscription to stream all MLB games from MLB.tv EXCEPT THE HOME TEAM. That's the vast majority! If I relied on non-fans of the home team to make money...well...that's not what I consider a good business model.
The blackout rules are so bad with MLB.

And they fail to embrace social media buzz by often blocking people that share clips. Meanwhile I can scroll my feed and catch all kinds of cool dunks/passes/shots from the NBA shared by all kinds of random people every night.

If something cool happens, let the world see it! Grow the game.
 
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The blackout rules are so bad with MLB.

And they fail to embrace social media buzz by often blocking people that share clips. Meanwhile I can scroll my feed and catch all kinds of cool dunks/passes/shots from the NBA shared by all kinds of random people every night.

If something cool happens, let the world see it! Grow the game.
Spot on. Ticket prices need to be cheaper too. Pack the stadium every game. Make lifelong fans. But no, price out the regular guy, and force him to deal with cable companies to watch it on tv. Just stupid
 
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The blackout rules are so bad with MLB.

And they fail to embrace social media buzz by often blocking people that share clips. Meanwhile I can scroll my feed and catch all kinds of cool dunks/passes/shots from the NBA shared by all kinds of random people every night.

If something cool happens, let the world see it! Grow the game.

They still run things like it's 1996. Kind of like how Jerry Jones runs the Cowboys, and it's working really well for both entities.
 
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