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Well, that kind of gets to the point of, whether they're being marginalized because of their race, or... you know... because they're liars. So it sorta matters.
I think my problem with this whole thing (and this is no judgement about whether or not the President or Chancellor is fit for their job) is lets say the feces swastika happened... still the worst thing I've seen is Melissa Click's behavior. The swastika, in the end, is vandalism. Abhorrent, deplorable, cowardly vandalism... but...a constitutionally protected abhorrent, deplorable, cowardly message. Click on the other hand, was engaged in a direct assault on the first amendment in the capacity of a public employee. (She may be guilty of assault and some other stuff, but that's not really my concern here). So, what's she protecting these kids from? Scrutiny? They asked for that... and what are these safe/healing places supposed to be for, its certainly not to encourage the free exchange of ideas. You can hide all this behind the lens of race if you want (and that's the obvious intent here to use race to outrage and cloud the the fact that the demands here are about power not justice) but if we're obscuring truth then this is going nowhere, regardless of how uncomfortable that truth is.
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OhioState001
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It's not racist to say these things if they are facts. If there are legitimate instances of racism then I will be the first to condemn them. But the Trayvon Martin/Michael Brown/Freddie Grey stuff is absolutely ridiculous and runs opposite to everything that Martin Luther King stood for. The motivating factors are people getting tired of the political correctness and simply want the truth to be told in the media.
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Both sides (I don't mean the parties involved) are jumping through hoops to justify their preconceived ideas. People want stories that are controversial, the media gives it to them, and everyone just wants to reinforce their already closely held point of view. Nobody cares about the truly obvious cases, like the SC cop shooting the black guy in the back when he is running away, and then planting the taser on his body.
How is calling someone a name like "thug" a fact? It isn't. It is a subjective opinion.
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That's my point. The original post to which I was referring implied that blacks get followed around in stores more than do whites. In certain areas, I might agree, but I don't think (and hope) that it's not as prevalent as many think and claim.
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OhioState001
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Your political correctness is showing. If you can't see that Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, and Freddie Gray are thugs then reality just doesn't get through to your safe space apparently.
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It isn't politically correct to call BS on your statement. Name calling is subjective. Not fact. And by the way, I didn't give my opinion on any of those cases, whether they were justified, etc, so you have no idea what I can or can't see.
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Not always. If a person is arguing with me that 1 + 1 = 3 and won't let it go, I would call them dumb. That's not subjective......that really is dumb. I don't know all of the facts on Trayvon Martin/Michael Brown/Freddie Gray. I kind of remember Michael Brown was just on his way back from robbing a convenience store. I'm not in the group that uses thug as a way to say the n word without saying the n word. I didn't even know that was a thing until this shooting. To me, a thug is a person who acts like a thug. They can be white, black, whatever. Robbing a store falls into that category. So is it subjective to see a person acting a certain way, and then putting a word to it? Not always.
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