crazybuckfan40
Head Coach
First off let me start by saying that I have never said that Vick is guilty or innocent...What is wrong with saying that I am going to wait until everything comes out until I pass judgement...
I also will say that if he is convicted, he will no longer be my favorite QB and I hope that he gets put away for a couple years, just like his cousin...Dog Fighting is not something that I support in anyway and think that it should be punished with a felong like it is...
With that said, I also understand that Vick is a public figure, people are goign to try and run with stuff even with no substance if they have it b/c they know it will sell, much like the Clarett fiasco we had a couple years ago...There was all kinds of mud slinging and hoping that something would stick...There were also all kinds of people that were ready to give us the death penalty, for what a little 500 donation given to a player...
So with all that said if he is guilty, no longer my favorite QB, that will then be Joey Harrington...But if he is innocent all these posts and articles and everything smearing his name in the mud is going to be what everyone remembers, much like with the Clarett thing...Now when ever we get a recruit, there is talk that we must of done something dirty or we are known as tO$U...Why b/c of the way the media played the whole thing out...Is it fair, no...
Know then to this point, yes Vick did bring a lot of this on himself by giving the money and house to his cousin...That is what he should be held responsible for at this point, he has said as such that he needs to clean up what is around him, and that is true, and I think he knows this much hopefully and can take care of it...
Also as for him playing dummy and acting like he doesnt know is another thing that can be addressed, I know we had this discussion yesterday, but I don't think it is out of the question for him to not know that this was going on, I have cousins that I don't know what is going on with, in the NFL and NBA there are leaches and people that want to attach to you and get all they can get from you, b/c they know you have it and they feel you owe it to them for being related...The part that Michael needs to learn is to say no. I also think that there is possiblity that he did know and is not going to tell people that he did know, b/c that would link him to it...
And last but not least, if he is found innocent, no I do not think he should be suspended, after looking at it, it is not even close to being parallel with the pacman and Chris Henry situations...THey both had countless arrest, Pacman 10 and Henry 4 or 5...
How many has Vick had 0...He had a minor thing with the no fishing license, but I can tell you that there are many people that fish without a license, and is probably as common as speeding tickets, he payed like an 80 dollar fine, woopdy dooo...The water bottle thing, he was not arrested the bottle was conviscated, ran test on and then all charges were dropped, once again while his name took a drubbing in the media for having a water bottle with a secret compartment...We can make assumptions about what it was used for, but that doesnt mean that is what he used it for...Then last but not least the dog fighting thing...If he is found guilty he will be suspended anyway as he will be sitting in jail or prison, so that point doesnt matter, but if he is found innocent, there is no reason for suspension IMO, like some of you have been lead to believe...
Hope this helps you guys on my stance, also hope that the little violinist helps you guys sleep at night, b/c that really brings substance to the discussion...We will keep the thug part out of this as that discussion is for another place, and like usual any black athlete who is accused of something has the label of a thug...You would think that would get boring to some, and you thing some would of a wider mind to think of a different way to discuss the wrong doings of someone other than a broad sterotype of the word thug...
I also will say that if he is convicted, he will no longer be my favorite QB and I hope that he gets put away for a couple years, just like his cousin...Dog Fighting is not something that I support in anyway and think that it should be punished with a felong like it is...
With that said, I also understand that Vick is a public figure, people are goign to try and run with stuff even with no substance if they have it b/c they know it will sell, much like the Clarett fiasco we had a couple years ago...There was all kinds of mud slinging and hoping that something would stick...There were also all kinds of people that were ready to give us the death penalty, for what a little 500 donation given to a player...
So with all that said if he is guilty, no longer my favorite QB, that will then be Joey Harrington...But if he is innocent all these posts and articles and everything smearing his name in the mud is going to be what everyone remembers, much like with the Clarett thing...Now when ever we get a recruit, there is talk that we must of done something dirty or we are known as tO$U...Why b/c of the way the media played the whole thing out...Is it fair, no...
Know then to this point, yes Vick did bring a lot of this on himself by giving the money and house to his cousin...That is what he should be held responsible for at this point, he has said as such that he needs to clean up what is around him, and that is true, and I think he knows this much hopefully and can take care of it...
Also as for him playing dummy and acting like he doesnt know is another thing that can be addressed, I know we had this discussion yesterday, but I don't think it is out of the question for him to not know that this was going on, I have cousins that I don't know what is going on with, in the NFL and NBA there are leaches and people that want to attach to you and get all they can get from you, b/c they know you have it and they feel you owe it to them for being related...The part that Michael needs to learn is to say no. I also think that there is possiblity that he did know and is not going to tell people that he did know, b/c that would link him to it...
And last but not least, if he is found innocent, no I do not think he should be suspended, after looking at it, it is not even close to being parallel with the pacman and Chris Henry situations...THey both had countless arrest, Pacman 10 and Henry 4 or 5...
How many has Vick had 0...He had a minor thing with the no fishing license, but I can tell you that there are many people that fish without a license, and is probably as common as speeding tickets, he payed like an 80 dollar fine, woopdy dooo...The water bottle thing, he was not arrested the bottle was conviscated, ran test on and then all charges were dropped, once again while his name took a drubbing in the media for having a water bottle with a secret compartment...We can make assumptions about what it was used for, but that doesnt mean that is what he used it for...Then last but not least the dog fighting thing...If he is found guilty he will be suspended anyway as he will be sitting in jail or prison, so that point doesnt matter, but if he is found innocent, there is no reason for suspension IMO, like some of you have been lead to believe...
Hope this helps you guys on my stance, also hope that the little violinist helps you guys sleep at night, b/c that really brings substance to the discussion...We will keep the thug part out of this as that discussion is for another place, and like usual any black athlete who is accused of something has the label of a thug...You would think that would get boring to some, and you thing some would of a wider mind to think of a different way to discuss the wrong doings of someone other than a broad sterotype of the word thug...
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