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Mike Vick (Pittsburgh Steelers)

iambrutus;841333; said:
i would like to thank The Man, CBF40 and any other blind vick supporters out there, if it weren't for you guys this thread would have been a total bore. this continues to be one of the top threads on BP
if you believe I am a blind Vick supporter then you either haven't been paying attention or are not very good at reading comprehension. I'll assume it is the first option. As for Tibs comment I don't recall the HOF prediction but you are the master of exaggeration. As for being clueless on this situation, well it makes you look silly. No one has ever argued that Vick doesn't need to improve his passing abilities, he just isn't as awful as some (re: you) make him out to be.
 
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The Man;841328; said:
I really don't care about respect, I just don't understand all the venom before this.
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MV is not a top 5 QB in this league no matter how much he is hyped, why can't it be left at that?
That in the last sentence is pretty much the answer to the question you pose in your first. He is over-hyped and that rankles some people.

From that premise everything else flows.

EDIT: The rumors being spouted on the radio have it that Vick's "Blank Check" is done this year - he either shapes up or the Falcons move onto Plan B. Any thoughts on that Falcons followers?
 
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The Man;841345; said:
I agree. I just don't see other over-hyped QB's taking the same abuse. Eli Manning comes to mind.
Oh, I don't know. Eli had a couple of good games under his belt as rookie, so he got something of a boost - though he fell off the cliff last year. Just give that one time. If Eli continues to under perform the Giants fans will ride him hard.
A better candidate for atrocious over-hype and subsequent recrimination is in the new crop of QBs. You all know his name.
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sandgk;841337; said:
EDIT: The rumors being spouted on the radio have it that Vick's "Blank Check" is done this year - he either shapes up or the Falcons move onto Plan B. Any thoughts on that Falcons followers?
that was the rumor after last season's disappointment. Arthur Blank won't put up with Vick's antics and a mediocre record. I have no problem with letting him go if Atl. gets a viable QB to play in '08. The cap ramifications are less than desirable but you gotta do what you gotta do. I said before I want whatever makes this team better, if it is Brian Brohm, or a veteran just get to the damn play-offs. I am a Falcon fan not a "whatever team Mike Vick is on" fan.
 
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tibor75;841365; said:
you can do better than that. One threads last post was before he even took a snap, another was about a big hit he took, and the other was started by.....you. One 2 page thread=this thread? :slappy: Bring back Guy Incognito, you are losing your edge.
 
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The Man;841389; said:
you can do better than that. One threads last post was before he even took a snap, another was about a big hit he took, and the other was started by.....you. One 2 page thread=this thread? :slappy: Bring back Guy Incognito, you are losing your edge.

Like I said, those threads don't have "fans" defending mediocre/bad QBs...
 
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The Man;841389; said:
you can do better than that. One threads last post was before he even took a snap, another was about a big hit he took, and the other was started by.....you. One 2 page thread=this thread? :slappy: Bring back Guy Incognito, you are losing your edge.
In all fairness though, Eli isn't viewed as the second coming anywhere except in the Manning household - remember daddy dissing the Chargers?

Meanwhile Vick adorns a lot of NFL media promos, is given (to this point) every benefit of the doubt about his off-field antics and has promo deals that approach LeBron status - yet he still has to deliver.
 
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