lvbuckeye;621016; said:Vick tends to throw the ball about 800 MPH when 50 would do. seriously, i've never seen anyone other than Vick throw a 60 MPH screen pass. he has NO touch whatsover.
Totally agree.
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lvbuckeye;621016; said:Vick tends to throw the ball about 800 MPH when 50 would do. seriously, i've never seen anyone other than Vick throw a 60 MPH screen pass. he has NO touch whatsover.
Thump;621018; said:Totally agree.
jwinslow;620968; said:That troy smith surely isn't a winner either, right 31?
I've never understood the obsession with championships. A QB needs a lot of help & luck to win a title. Favre gets lots of credit from his superbowl ring, but he hasn't made another superbowl without that incredible roster around him.
crazybuckfan40;621020; said:Me too...He does have pretty good touch on his deep ball at times...
Fine... then if Troy fails to win a NC this season, then is he not a winner? I love troy, but I don't think the NFL will let him play QB... so this might be his last year.ScarletBlood31;621039; said:Wow. Troy Smith hasn't even completed a full season as the unquestioned starter. He isn't even out of college yet. We have the luxury of looking back at both Eric Crouch and Michael Vick's college careers as a whole, and where they stand now 5 years later. We know that neither had won a NCAA championship, and Crouch is now all but a nobody in the football world. Trying to compare the two situations, while putting words in my mouth, is just idiotic.
jwinslow;621134; said:I love troy, but I don't think the NFL will let him play QB... so this might be his last year.
I thought the same thing about M Robinson, and he has impressed the SF coaches (he's now the goalline back instead of Gore). I think Smith has equal strength and better agility than MRob, so in the right situation he might excel.OregonBuckeye;621242; said:If he doesn't play QB then I don't think he plays anything.
jwinslow;621272; said:I thought the same thing about M Robinson, and he has impressed the SF coaches (he's now the goalline back instead of Gore). I think Smith has equal strength and better agility than MRob, so in the right situation he might excel.
Bucklion;621339; said:I agree with the agility, but not sure about the strength...not sure Smith could lay the haymaker hit down that Robinson did last week.
I was very sad when McNair was run out of town... he would have provided a great mentor and learning situation.Mr. Clutch;622933; said:Young better be extremely tough, mentally. This season could be devastating to his confidence, if he isn't.
crazybuckfan40;623214; said:Where is all the Vick hate this week?????
Mr. Clutch;623338; said:I took a break.
Atlanta's D is solid.