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Mike Vick (Pittsburgh Steelers)

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ekeen;909214; said:
Hunting is a sport that some of us partake in because it is in the spirit in of taking meat and outfoxing prey and their natural ability to avoid us (predators). Having two dogs fight to the death and then killing the lesser attacker because it is insufficient is an entirely different matter altogether.

It has been hilarious to see the stupid explanations givens by Marbury, Portess and Deion Sanders. I am sure I am missing more of these guys. Idiots.
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Ekeen ole buddy, I was not dissing hunting, which I've done, but trying to show how f-in stupid his comparison was. But I've got to say that the life of a dog in a fight ring is not worse than that of a Tyson chicken, in fact, it is better in many ways. But if you are going to snuff your dog, you do it the same way that vets do...painless a sleepy time shot. My main bitch is the way that the dogs suffered needlessly, both in the ring and in being dispatched.
 
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ekeen;909214; said:
Hunting is a sport that some of us partake in because it is in the spirit in of taking meat and outfoxing prey and their natural ability to avoid us (predators). Having two dogs fight to the death and then killing the lesser attacker because it is insufficient is an entirely different matter altogether.

It has been hilarious to see the stupid explanations givens by Marbury, Portess and Deion Sanders. I am sure I am missing more of these guys. Idiots.
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Good idea. Next time take a bow and arrow instead of being a coward and bringing an assault rifle. Yeah, that takes manly skill. :roll1:
 
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Gatorubet;909264; said:
Ekeen ole buddy, I was not dissing hunting, which I've done, but trying to show how f-in stupid his comparison was. But I've got to say that the life of a dog in a fight ring is not worse than that of a Tyson chicken, in fact, it is better in many ways. But if you are going to snuff your dog, you do it the same way that vets do...painless a sleepy time shot. My main bitch is the way that the dogs suffered needlessly, both in the ring and in being dispatched.
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Oh I didn't take it as a diss....I was just saying..... I heard some idiot defend Vick by saying 'White folks have horseracing and black folks have dog fighting.' I think any decent person will see that breeding pitt bulls to fight other dogs is simply not a sport.

Tibor;909266; said:
Good idea. Next time take a bow and arrow instead of being a coward and bringing an assault rifle. Yeah, that takes manly skill. :roll1:
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I prefer bow and arrow. It forces you to take an animal from 25 yards (my preferred yardage) or less. There is little room for error in that type of scenario and it's the true test for a sportsman.

Besides, the assault rifle (i.e. semiauto rifle) is not legal to use in Ohio for taking big game but I'm sure you knew that.
 
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RugbyBuck;908996; said:
I just read a pretty substantial report on dogfighting which said that dogs trained by outfits such as Bad Newz aren't necessarily dangerous to humans, but that the pitbulls owned by the average thug "street fighter" are inherently vicious and will attack anything/anyone other than their "alpha male" owners who typically abuse them in order to "train" them for impromptu street fights. The paradox is that I, and more importantly, my children, are not going to come into contact with dogs like Vick had/fought which are relatively less dangerous to people, but are more likely to come across the vicious, abused dogs of idiot thugs and white trash that are extremely dangerous and likely to attack a child without provocation. It may not be the dogs' fault, but as we say in Da Dirrrty South, that don't confront me.
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i completely understand your point of view. it doesn't matter whose fault it is as your kid is being attacked. but the problem is this. if we exterminate the pit bull breed as you suggest the thugs and white trash of the world aren't just going to dissapear. they will pick another breed of dog and the revolving door will start all over again. while there is a long list of dogs with aggressive tendancies, any dog through neglect and abuse can be made just as vicious. the difference i think you and i have is you wish to protect yourself and those around you from the dog. and hey, theres a lot of logic to that. i on the other hand wish to eliminate the factor that is making the dog vicious in the first place. and that is the scum bag waste of perfectly good oxygen owner. your conscern is the immediate threat (probably because your stairing it in the face), im conscerned with the persistent threat (probably because the immediate one isn't stairing me in the face).

that is why i have such hatred for people who neglect animals in such a fashion. its not because they are abusing a wonderful beautiful creature of god. i grew up on a cattle farm, *shrug* theres a pecking order in this world. its because they are endangering the lives of all those around them. not to mention that abusing animals is a clear warning sign as to the stability of an individual.
 
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i just want to know why this issue is quickly becoming a white/black thing.

as alot of the black athletes and black leaders are saying that vick didnt do anything horrible because this is what he grew up in and didnt know any better. and to top it off they are trying to compare dog fighting and the animal cruelty to things mostly white activities; hunting/horse racing.


why cant it just be that vick is a dumb ass that knew it was wrong and kept doing it because he thought he was invincible.
 
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Ginn4Heisman;909798; said:
i just want to know why this issue is quickly becoming a white/black thing.
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Yeah, the race card is getting played way too much during this case. I think it's a combination of things, the small amount of black quarterbacks in the NFL and people just wanting to believe that no one in their right mind would toss away all of that for something so silly. A reaction, that has become far too common lately, is to go with the "everyone is out to get him" approach instead of accepting the fact that he's just a fucking moron.

as alot of the black athletes and black leaders are saying that vick didnt do anything horrible because this is what he grew up in and didnt know any better. and to top it off they are trying to compare dog fighting and the animal cruelty to things mostly white activities; hunting/horse racing.
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Comparing dog fighting to hunting or horse racing isn't a fair comparison anyways. Putting down an animal fast to eat, or training an animal to run doesn't quite match having two animals tear each other limb from limb for the amusement of others. And I don't really understand how he can go with "didn't know any better." It's common-fucking-sense here, everyone keeps quiet about this activity you do and doesn't tell anyone that could be a threat, so it must be a good idea? They can play the "product of his environment" card all they want but it still doesn't make it ok.

why cant it just be that vick is a dumb ass that knew it was wrong and kept doing it because he thought he was invincible.
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Agreed, this has become an environment thing and a race thing instead of what it actually is, a Vick thing. He setup a whole operation to do this, he knew the risks, and yet he continued to do it. He's a high profile athlete so it's not like he's going to go unrecognized, the more people he exposes this operation to the easier it gets for the law to see what's going on.

Whether people want to make excuses for him or not the bottom line is that he broke the law, he knew he was breaking the law and still he did it. He knew there were risks involved, and now he's dealing with those.
 
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Ginn4Heisman;909798; said:
i just want to know why this issue is quickly becoming a white/black thing.
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because people are trying to boil this down to a man loosing his freedom, a lucrative career, and his reputation over the death of an animal. vick, prior to this, was someone who was well respected and looked up to (in many circles). one of the bigger names in sports as far as black athletes go.

persons/organizations who were using him to further their ambitions and political interests now have egg on their face right along side of him. he pleaded guilty, so they can't claim his innocense. so all they can do at this point is lessen the damage this is doing by trying to undermine the seriousness of the situation.

statements like, "this wouldn't be a big deal if he were white" or, "this is just the culture he grew up in" are ment to shift the blame away from vick and the sympathy to him. oh gee, he had a hard life, we should feel sorry for him and overlook anything he does wrong. blah blah cry cry.

and to top it off they are trying to compare dog fighting and the animal cruelty to things mostly white activities; hunting/horse racing.
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this is the damage control. cloud the facts and misdirect misdirect misdirect. its very simple really. racism is the catch all card. once you've been backed into a corner and you can no longer win the arguement, you throw down the ol racism trump card because that one can't be argued. no matter what the facts are. hell, here in cincy a black officer was accused of being a racist after shooting a black man who tried to run over his partner.

why cant it just be that vick is a dumb ass that knew it was wrong and kept doing it because he thought he was invincible.
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because this isn't about mr. vick anymore.
 
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RugbyBuck;909947; said:
Were I black with children, especially boys, I would like to think that I would use this thing as an opportunity to teach them not how to blame society or the man, but about responsibility and being a man.
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I would like to think you could do that no matter which you might belong too.
 
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Woman auctions off dog-chewed Vick sports cards on eBay.

She will be donating the proceeds to charity - proclaims the lot of these dog-toothed cards "revenge art."

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After 76 bids the price stands at just over $450.
 
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Yes, but it's black folks that are bitching that Vick's been mistreated because he's black when what would do their kids the most good is to see that there are consequences for your actions and that if you always view the world through the eyes of a victim, you'll always be just that.
 
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