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3yardsandacloud
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Winning is a TEAM effort. Coaches, players, fans, etc. ... we're pretty strong in all areas at the moment. That being said, there are some plays that come ONLY from the coach putting his players in a position to make great plays. Beanie Wells diving up the gut, Smith with a great ball fake, and Ginn catching the TD pass was a GREAT example of this. One specific play set up with a season long tendency, to be used at one point in time, in one game, worked to perfection. Tressel has done this to Michigan in each and every game ... multiple times per game. Having great players (like Smith) make the chess game between coaches a bit easier, but it is still a chess game.
Smith didn't win 3 straight Michigan games by himself. He sure made the task easier, but (as football has always been) it's all parts working together effectively that make great teams ... and TEAMS win football games. It's probably more accurate to define wins and losses by a team's weakest link, rather than attribute them to the strongest link. I would say our weakest link(s) were a bit better than Michigan's weakest link(s).
Smith didn't win 3 straight Michigan games by himself. He sure made the task easier, but (as football has always been) it's all parts working together effectively that make great teams ... and TEAMS win football games. It's probably more accurate to define wins and losses by a team's weakest link, rather than attribute them to the strongest link. I would say our weakest link(s) were a bit better than Michigan's weakest link(s).
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zincfinger
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I don't think there's any question that Tressel is, at minimum, a huge part of it, and an obvious and blatant departure from the Cooper years in which great teams repeatedly came up short against Michigan. That said, I don't think the final answer to your question is determined yet. Next year should provide some more info. Michigan will be a strong candidate for preseason #1, with a defense that will be at least solid, and the best triumvirate of quarterback, running back, and primary receiver in the country. If OSU can pull of that win, in Ann Arbor no less, I think you'll have your answer.
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briegg
Heisman
I actually thought about this very same topic recently. I would agree with the fact that it has been the combination of both Troy with JT. Tressel "gets" the rivalry - he develops tendancies throughout the year, just to set up something in The Game (see play action to TG). He also develops a wrinkle / scheme for each MI game to play to our strengths / MI weaknesses which puts tOSU players in a position to succeed (see Troy running in 2004, Andre Tyree in 2005, and 5 wides in 2006).
I was actaully a bit worried about this after The Game this year, thinking about how difficult it will be to go to AA next year without Troy, but then I though about it this way that I think brings this back into perspective about JT's impact.
How do we think Troy would have performed against MI if Cooper were still the coach? (hint: anyone that answers this 3-0 needs to be committed).
I was actaully a bit worried about this after The Game this year, thinking about how difficult it will be to go to AA next year without Troy, but then I though about it this way that I think brings this back into perspective about JT's impact.
How do we think Troy would have performed against MI if Cooper were still the coach? (hint: anyone that answers this 3-0 needs to be committed).
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CookyPuss
Screw Blue
Only a Michigan fan would ask this question. Cooper consistently had teams with better talent and couldn't beat win. Troy is as great of a QB as tOSU has ever had, but he is not the reason this team is great. If it was about having the best QB, then why is Brady Quinn not 4-0 against them? Isn't he the best QB in the nation? Just ask any Domer, they'll tell you!
Kidding aside, it takes a lot more than one great player to win that game. That one great player can give you the edge, but that and a bad game plan will get you a cold cup of coffee and no better than 3rd in the BCS final standings. Good luck next year in AA!
:gobucks3: :gobucks4:
Kidding aside, it takes a lot more than one great player to win that game. That one great player can give you the edge, but that and a bad game plan will get you a cold cup of coffee and no better than 3rd in the BCS final standings. Good luck next year in AA!
:gobucks3: :gobucks4:
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beatnd
Rookie
zincfinger;679179; said:
Well....seems like the consensus among everyone is Tressel....maybe you're right guys....maybe Tressel will continue on and dominate Lloyd like Lloyd did to Coop....man we miss him
Heisman Troy was just toooooo freakin' good - inarguably he's put up the best stats - I mean 1000+ yards.....my lord?!?! - and the 3 best performances of any OSU player ever in the history of the great UM-OSU rivalry!!!....so maybe these past three years will just be known as "The Troy Years."
And now that Troy is finally gone - thank god!
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