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Michigan State Spartans (official thread)

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Zurp said:
As for your second statement, are you saying M*ch*gan is not trying to win a Natty? Or Penn State? I know the Penn State fans are really angry that they haven't made it to the stage. I can only imagine that the M*ch*gan fans are still mad that they can't pass the next step.
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Since 1970, the Big Ten has 2 1/2 national championships. Over 50 years……

Michigan 1997 (1/2)
OSU 2002
OSU 2014

Is Michigan trying to win national championships? Maybe certain years if the ducks are in a row. Michigan doesn’t acquire the recruits like Georgia, OSU, Alabama, LSU, etc. Michigan has to get lucky in landing a top 100 recruit, find undervalued recruits, transfers, and focus more on development. I would love to see what this staff could do if they pulled in classes like Georgia.

I’m also speaking for the Pedsters. They have nice talent, but it’s the same type of talent as Michigan. More of a top 2nd tier in terms of raw talent. A lot of shit has to happen if Penn State or Michigan wants to win a national title. Certainly capable, but recruiting needs to be better (can’t have off recruiting years) and the coaching has to be far better in game planning when they go up against OSU and the top SEC schools.
 
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zwem said:
Since 1970, the Big Ten has 2 1/2 national championships. Over 50 years……

Michigan 1997 (1/2)
OSU 2002
OSU 2014

Is Michigan trying to win national championships? Maybe certain years if the ducks are in a row. Michigan doesn’t acquire the recruits like Georgia, OSU, Alabama, LSU, etc. Michigan has to get lucky in landing a top 100 recruit, find undervalued recruits, transfers, and focus more on development. I would love to see what this staff could do if they pulled in classes like Georgia.

I’m also speaking for the Pedsters. They have nice talent, but it’s the same type of talent as Michigan. More of a top 2nd tier in terms of raw talent. A lot of shit has to happen if Penn State or Michigan wants to win a national title. Certainly capable, but recruiting needs to be better (can’t have off recruiting years) and the coaching has to be far better in game planning when they go up against OSU and the top SEC schools.
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First, maybe I'm cynical, but a M*ch*gan fan claiming just a half a championship in 1997 - are you just pretending to be a M*ch*gan fan? Or are you just pandering to the majority of the people who visit this site? Both are acceptable. There may be a third, also acceptable answer. I guess it's irrelevant, though.

Second, maybe we aren't on the same page as far as what "try" means. I mean, aren't both of those teams trying to get the top-level recruits? Just because they have a tougher battle to fight, or a steeper hill to climb, does that mean they aren't really trying? Maybe in most years, the team expectations and goals don't include a national championship. But I would think that they're TRYING to win one.

I would guess that if you ranked the teams by overall quality and consistency over the past 10-15 years, and also ranked the teams on likeliness to win a championship in any given year, the two lists would look pretty damn close. And Ohio State would be ranked much higher than any other Big Ten Team. Just because M*ch*gan and Penn State would be ranked lower down doesn't mean they aren't trying to win.
 
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Zurp said:
First, maybe I'm cynical, but a M*ch*gan fan claiming just a half a championship in 1997 - are you just pretending to be a M*ch*gan fan? Or are you just pandering to the majority of the people who visit this site? Both are acceptable. There may be a third, also acceptable answer. I guess it's irrelevant, though.

Second, maybe we aren't on the same page as far as what "try" means. I mean, aren't both of those teams trying to get the top-level recruits? Just because they have a tougher battle to fight, or a steeper hill to climb, does that mean they aren't really trying? Maybe in most years, the team expectations and goals don't include a national championship. But I would think that they're TRYING to win one.

I would guess that if you ranked the teams by overall quality and consistency over the past 10-15 years, and also ranked the teams on likeliness to win a championship in any given year, the two lists would look pretty damn close. And Ohio State would be ranked much higher than any other Big Ten Team. Just because M*ch*gan and Penn State would be ranked lower down doesn't mean they aren't trying to win.
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Not pretending. Nebraska claimed a title and Michigan claimed it as well. There wasn't an outright winner take that year.

If Harbaugh took the college game serious and didn't flirt with the NFL, I'm sure recruiting would be a lot better. With NIL and all other shit going on, Michigan just isn't there with the top teams. Look at the crazy bastard, Dabo. College football landscape is changing at a rapid pace and his team will be an above average team if he doesn't get past his stubborn ways.

To get back to Michigan. They have the resources and money. They should finish top 10 every year without excuses. I bet the majority of people would be nervous as fuck on this board if Harbaugh focused on Michigan and got the same level of talent going up against Day.

Finally, you are right that Michigan is trying to win a title ; However, are they putting 100% into it? Probably not. Realistically, it probably won't happen due to history and lagging behind in talent. I have to see that Michigan is taking NIL seriously and Harbaugh is 100% committed to Michigan to actually believe that they are all in to capturing a title.
 
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3074326 said:
I will say.. the experience was drastically better when I was taking classes related to my major/minor. I also had some really good professors. But the majority of my first two years? Power points. And our group projects were power point presentations.
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For sure, all the "core" type courses were awful.
Complete waste of time.

The only good one i had was Japanese Culture, and i really didn't "need" to take it having just lived there for 4 years.
But the University said 20+ countries wasn't enough and I needed a core "cultural awareness" course.
At least the Lecturer (not a Prof) was ecstatic to be there, enjoyed the topic, and could talk for days about literature.
 
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Greyshirt said:
Urban is not coaching at MSU
I am assuming he is using this as leverage to start the bidding war at say LSU or TAnM or a couple of other SEC schools.
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I think it's more a case of someone just looking for clicks. Urban has been pretty emphatic that he has no interest in coaching again. Never say never, but with the cushy contract he got from Fox when he came back after the failed Jacksonville experiment I just don't see him giving that up and going back to the grind.
 
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gmen6981 said:
I think it's more a case of someone just looking for clicks. Urban has been pretty emphatic that he has no interest in coaching again. Never say never, but with the cushy contract he got from Fox when he came back after the failed Jacksonville experiment I just don't see him giving that up and going back to the grind.
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I also don't think after the JAX gig, that he has all that many suitors...
 
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pnuts34 said:
I don't even think he'd want that pressure any longer. If he buckled to the pressure from a terrible franchise like JAX, ND would make his head explode
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Yeah i don’t think he would necessarily take it, but he apparently said when he was a younger coach that ND was always his dream job. I never saw an video of him saying it but I’ve heard numerous people cite it. If that’s true, he might consider ND if it opens but even that isn’t a sure thing. As you mentioned the pressure would be so high, especially with the expectations from him to win big due to his track record in CFB.
 
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Tomateaux Quinoa Gumbeaux said:
Yeah i don’t think he would necessarily take it, but he apparently said when he was a younger coach that ND was always his dream job. I never saw an video of him saying it but I’ve heard numerous people cite it. If that’s true, he might consider ND if it opens but even that isn’t a sure thing. As you mentioned the pressure would be so high, especially with the expectations from him to win big due to his track record in CFB.
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Yeah, I figured that your post was in reference to that quote from the past, and I think that quote precedes his OSU stint. But at this point, Urban's stock is at its lowest. Crazy that 2 coaches who for years were used as names for literally every HC vacancy in college and the NFL(Urban and John Gruden), flamed out in spectacular fashion at their last jobs. And now no one wants to even bring their names up in realistic situations, mainly just to get clicks to their pages.
 
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Greyshirt said:
Urban is not coaching at MSU
I am assuming he is using this as leverage to start the bidding war at say LSU or TAnM or a couple of other SEC schools.
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I don't think he wants anything to do with the SEC. I think Ohio State was as SEC as you get without being down there.....and that went about as well as it could have considering the cast of characters. Maybe NIL changes things and it doesn't stress him out as much to pay for players in order to compete?
 
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