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Miami (FL) Hurricanes (1926-2003)

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Oh8ch;1975373; said:
I think Golden still gets a pass. It is not his job to rule on eligibility. JT got in trouble for withholding information, not for playing the kids. Unless Golden personally is keeping something to himself he plays whoever the AD and NCAA tells him he can play without consequence.
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the point is that if miami had clear evidence that these kids committed violations, and golden just played them because it wouldn't make things worse for the school in terms of further ncaa penalties, he'd be looking at getting hit with penalties himself.

the fact that miami has already suspended kids and is hoping that the ncaa just gives them a slap on the wrist proves my point.
 
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tsteele316;1975388; said:
the point is that if miami had clear evidence that these kids committed violations, and golden just played them because it wouldn't make things worse for the school in terms of further ncaa penalties, he'd be looking at getting hit with penalties himself.

the fact that miami has already suspended kids and is hoping that the ncaa just gives them a slap on the wrist proves my point.
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And what I am trying to say is that the call as to who gets to play has been taken out of Golden's hands at this point. This is not a team rules issue.
 
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if benefits to athletes included but were not limited to: cash, prostitutes, entertainment in his multimillion-dollar homes and yacht, paid trips to high-end restaurants and nightclubs, jewelry, bounties for on-field play (including bounties for injuring opposing players), travel and on one occasion, an abortion is wrong...
 
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buckeyesin07;1975402; said:
I don't see any way the NCAA can reinstate these guys prior to Sept 5, given the Shapiro allegations.
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No idea how the NCAA is handling the Jeffrey Godfrey situation. But it appears to be a booster violation, not an athlete violation.

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8 of the 12 players in our report were cited as having taken benefits in excess of $100 from Nevin Shapiro. Those 8 were declared ineligible

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As for Miami's current football players, all 12 in our report were cited by Miami as having received some form of benefit from Nevin Shapiro

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Notable: Charles hasn't been accused of anything but being in Nevin Shapiro's house. That's a booster violation, not an athlete violation.

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Sources said Robert Marve, Arthur/Bryce Brown, Matt Patchan, Andre Debose & Orson Charles all "retained" eligibility. Interesting wording.

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NCAA immunity: multiple source have told me there have been several active players already granted limited immunity in NCAA's investigation.

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I could see some of these kids getting back on the field rather quickly.

From a player standpoint it is not much different than the Troy Smith situation. He took some stuff from a booster and had to pay a price. That the Miami situation is compounded by dozens of players taking tons of stuff should have no impact on any individual kid. His issue is what he specifically did.

It is the program itself that is in serious shit due to the range and depth of offenses - not necessarily individuals on the team.
 
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Oh8ch;1975417; said:
I could see some of these kids getting back on the field rather quickly.

From a player standpoint it is not much different than the Troy Smith situation. He took some stuff from a booster and had to pay a price. That the Miami situation is compounded by dozens of players taking tons of stuff should have no impact on any individual kid. His issue is what he specifically did.

It is the program itself that is in serious [Mark May] due to the range and depth of offenses - not necessarily individuals on the team.
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My understanding is Troy took $500 on 1 occasion. I have a feeling these players each received benefits on numerous occasions (a pattern of abuse), which would be a huge difference.
 
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Oh8ch;1975417; said:
I could see some of these kids getting back on the field rather quickly.

From a player standpoint it is not much different than the Troy Smith situation. He took some stuff from a booster and had to pay a price. That the Miami situation is compounded by dozens of players taking tons of stuff should have no impact on any individual kid. His issue is what he specifically did.

It is the program itself that is in serious [Mark May] due to the range and depth of offenses - not necessarily individuals on the team.
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Not sure I agree. The UNC guys lost an entire season for the same thing. Little, for example, for taking under 5k in benefits.
 
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Oh8ch;1975417; said:
I could see some of these kids getting back on the field rather quickly.

From a player standpoint it is not much different than the Troy Smith situation. He took some stuff from a booster and had to pay a price. That the Miami situation is compounded by dozens of players taking tons of stuff should have no impact on any individual kid. His issue is what he specifically did.

It is the program itself that is in serious shit due to the range and depth of offenses - not necessarily individuals on the team.
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And Troy had to sit two games. I'm trying to find a way, but I don't think these 8 kids will sit fewer than two games, which I would agree with your point is rather quickly, but that would also eliminate them from playing against OSU.

EDIT: yep, that would be the definition of a run-on sentence.
 
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26 Wisconsin players were suspended from 1 to 3 games at the start of the 2000 season. The NCAA gave Wisconsin some leeway on staggering the suspensions by ruling that all suspensions must be served in the first 4 games. This permitted Alvarez to choose which games to sit the players. The same might happen in this situation if the number of suspensions is high.
 
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