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Miami (FL) Hurricanes (1926-2003)

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SmoovP;1974164; said:
Bobby Lowder isn't lost, but he's a hell of a lot smarter than Nevin Shapiro.
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Relative IQs aside the only real difference is that Lowder has never gotten butthurt over former players giving him the cold shoulder & then decided to get back at them by spilling the beans.

Well that and he's taller.
 
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Muck;1974525; said:
Relative IQs aside the only real difference is that Lowder has never gotten butthurt over former players giving him the cold shoulder & then decided to get back at them by spilling the beans.

Well that and he's taller.
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He ain't taller by much.

He a little bitty fella too.
 
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lvbuckeye;1974167; said:
the question that needs to be raised is ARE those kids that went to other schools eligible.
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Why yes....yes they are.
lvbuckeye;1974167; said:
if the bennies were that good at Miami, how much would it take to get a kid to go elsewhere? i think, perhaps, the lid has been blown off college football. this [Mark May]storm is just getting started.
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Everybody knows it is much more attractive to a recruit to be drinking the delicious tap water at a Gainesville IHOP than to be drinking Crystal at some South Beach strip club with a gyrating honey on your lap. Duh!!!
 
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Gatorubet;1974266; said:
The hazing scandal of the late 1800s almost closed the academy. In April of 1976 it was discovered that possibly over half of the West Point junior class had violated the Honor Code by cheating on a case assignment and/or not reporting it if they did not cheat but knew of it.

The Code did not prevent the 1950-51 West Point football team scandal, as most of the squad (then the top ranked football team in the country) was found to be shaving points for gamblers. The Code was in place back then.

The Air Force Academy instituted an Honor oath in 1984.
"We will not lie, steal or cheat, nor tolerate among us anyone who does. Furthermore, I resolve to do my duty and to live honorably, so help me God."- Honor Code Handbook​
After cheating scandals hit the Academy 1967, 1972, and 1984, the recitation of an oath as a group did not stop the 2004 and 2007 cheating scandals. It did sure as [Mark May] did not stop the sexual harassment scandal of 2003, or prevent cadets from attacking fellow future officers or lying about it to protect themselves, or others, or the academy for that matter.

The WSJ got it wrong, IMO. Institutional Codes mean [Mark May]. People have to decide to do the right thing or to act in a dishonorable way. People follow a Code or they do not. Whether they go to Miami or one of the service academies, and whether they have an official "Code" to display in a rotunda somewhere is of little or no importance.

People have to make a decision to act with integrity, or to chose not to do so. And if weak willed people are influenced by fellow students, it is people who fail them, not codes.

Edit: Once again, Jeff brings us an interesting and timely on-point article to ponder. I'm not trying to argue with the messenger.
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A fine wall of text that should be submitted as an op-ed.
 
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jlb1705;1974627; said:
I'm not. At this point, does playing ineligible players really make things worse?
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For Al Golden it does. To this point he's clear in any of this nonsense. Knowingly playing ineligible players may not make things worse for the program as a whole, but it may well get Golden slapped with a show cause penalty from the NCAA.
 
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tsteele316;1974644; said:
For Al Golden it does. To this point he's clear in any of this nonsense. Knowingly playing ineligible players may not make things worse for the program as a whole, but it may well get Golden slapped with a show cause penalty from the NCAA.
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So OSU could well end up being four and oh against the MAC this year -- U MIAMI -- MIAMI U, doesn't look like there will be much difference. If the bucks miss out on the Big 10 CC game they could be the MAC east entry.
 
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cincibuck;1974652; said:
So OSU could well end up being four and oh against the MAC this year -- U MIAMI -- MIAMI U, doesn't look like there will be much difference. If the bucks miss out on the Big 10 CC game they could be the MAC east entry.
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Colorado joined the MAC? Here I thought they joined the Pac-10.
 
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Holy Crap!!! The NCAA is giving immunity to Marve and some other players to spill the dirt on Miami.

http://www.indystar.com/article/20110824/SPORTS0602/108240320/Report-Purdue-s-Marve-testifies-gets-immunity-from-NCAA?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Sports

Josephine Potuto, former chairman of the NCAA Committee on
Infractions and currently the athletic faculty representative at
Nebraska, said limited immunity can be viewed as a last resort.
"If there's no other way to get the information and it's a major
violation, it's a tool that they can use," Potuto said.

NCAA bylaws have allowed the enforcement staff to use limited
immunity in cases before, but mainly with staff and coaches.
In April, a bylaw went into effect giving the enforcement staff the
power to grant limited immunity to student-athletes and prospects.

When the Yahoo story broke, the NCAA announced it had been
investigating Miami's program for five months. Potuto said the
timing of the bylaw and the Miami investigation is a coincidence.
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This is a really big deal, from the standpoint of weapons in their arsenal to dig stuff out.
 
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cincibuck;1974652; said:
So OSU could well end up being four and oh against the MAC this year -- U MIAMI -- MIAMI U, doesn't look like there will be much difference. If the bucks miss out on the Big 10 CC game they could be the MAC east entry.
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Ok, so OSU had to vacate it's win vs. Miami from last year right?

This should, by rights, mean that Maimi has to vacate its last 8-10 seasons.

Trying to figure out who won what is going to be like dividing by zero.

IT'S IMPOSSIBLE!
 
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