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Miami (FL) Hurricanes (1926-2003)

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If Perez (Shapiro's attorney) is remembering these things accurately and Shapiro was straightforward when discussing it, this is more seriously bad news for Miami.

CBS (there's an audio link in the article)

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Slight problem: Nevin Shapiro's attorney Maria Elena Perez has other ideas about Shannon's role in the scandal. To that end, Perez was on "Armando and the Amigo," a radio program with Armando Salguero (Miami Herald columnist), Chris Perkins (CBSSports.com Dolphins RapidReporter), and Larry Milian (longtime Miami-area radio personality) on 640-AM WMEN in Miami-Fort Lauderdale.
For those unable or unwilling to listen to Ms. Perez's statement, here's what she told Salguero, Perkins, and Milian:

Perez: "Well, I wouldn't say that [Miami president] Donna Shalala knew that there was NCAA violations going on. She obviously knew that Nevin was a benefactor, someone that was giving money to the school, because there's a picture of her receiving a check at an event at Lucky Strike on the beach, it's photographed on the Yahoo! Sports article. So I don't think that she knew that there were NCAA violations, but I know that the coaches knew. And I know that--
Host: "Which coaches?"
Perez: "--the organization knew, and that's why they let him lead them out of the tunnel on a couple of occasions!"
Host: "Randy Shannon knew?"
Perez: "Excuse me?"
Host: "Randy Shannon knew?"
Perez: "I believe, based on what my client has indicated, that Randy Shannon did know."
Host: "Larry Coker knew?"
Perez: "Um... I believe, based my client's representations, that Larry Coker did know."
Host: "And obviously, in the story, Frank Haith--"
Perez: "That is correct."
Host: "Frank Haith knew."
Perez: "That is correct."

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I believe in the breaking Yahoo! story they reported that Shapiro had stated he had asked for, and received, a sit down with Shannon either during, or very soon after the UM coaching search.
 
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buxfan4life;1974132; said:
I believe in the braking Yahoo! story they reported that Shapiro had stated he had asked for, and received, a sit down with Shannon either during, or very soon after the UM coaching search.
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Oh8ch;1973518; said:
This review will be fun. The clueless Miami fans still don't get the distinction between kids who got benefits from a Miami booster and are playing for Miami versus kids who got benefits (that did not rise to the level of professionalism) and went elsewhere.

Many are convinced that those other players being declared eligible is evidence that there is no merit to what Shapiro is saying.

I just don't see how - in the face of all this - Miami can let these kids play unless they can prove the unprovable. The timing on all this is simply gorgeous.
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the question that needs to be raised is ARE those kids that went to other schools eligible. if the bennies were that good at Miami, how much would it take to get a kid to go elsewhere? i think, perhaps, the lid has been blown off college football. this shitstorm is just getting started.
 
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lvbuckeye;1974167; said:
the question that needs to be raised is ARE those kids that went to other schools eligible. if the bennies were that good at Miami, how much would it take to get a kid to go elsewhere? i think, perhaps, the lid has been blown off college football. this [Mark May]storm is just getting started.
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Yes. They got special immunity to corroborate the story for the ncaa.
 
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Wall Street Journal - Duty, Honor, Football - What West Point Could Teach Miami

The honor code at West Point possesses an admirable directness: "A cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do."

In those few words the United States Military Academy sends a clear message about what the institution expects of its cadets. Of its 12 words, the last five are the most difficult. Plainly it's not enough to behave honorably oneself. Cadets also bear responsibility for the community, which requires they not "tolerate" misbehavior in their fellow cadets.

The code comes to mind while reading the sordid news about the University of Miami's football program. * * * Now, like West Point, it turns out that Miami too has an honor code. That's not unusual. These days our colleges and universities are overflowing with codes: speech codes, tolerance codes, sex codes, you name it. The longer the code, the less effective it becomes.

Miami's website says its code "specifically covers four violations": cheating, plagiarism, collusion and academic dishonesty. It goes on to say, "Anyone affiliated with the University, including faculty, teaching assistants, and students, may file a complaint in accordance with this code." Miami athletes are further reminded that they are obligated to follow all laws and rules: the university's, the NCAA's, the state's, and the federal government's.

Notice anything different? No emphasis here on not tolerating others who violate the Miami code?and only a tiny mention that violations "should" be reported. In other words, keep your own nose clean, you're OK. * * * This is a signal to look the other way.

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Those defending the Hurricanes say that the violations of one booster, however egregious, do not compare to the payments to players, made with the knowledge of top university officials, that earned Southern Methodist University the proverbial death penalty in 1987. Probably this is right. As in real life, however, the death penalty in college football surely cannot really be much of a deterrent if it's been used only once in the past quarter century.

The ingredients of Miami's vices?the nightclubs, the prostitutes, the yachts?make it far juicier than the typical pay-for-play. The scandal here is not that teenage football players behave badly when a wealthy benefactor indulges their every appetite. The scandal is what it says about the impoverished sense of community on our college and university campuses, and the fecklessness of those who know better.
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LordJeffBuck;1974217; said:
Wall Street Journal - Duty, Honor, Football - What West Point Could Teach Miami
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The hazing scandal of the late 1800s almost closed the academy. In April of 1976 it was discovered that possibly over half of the West Point junior class had violated the Honor Code by cheating on a case assignment and/or not reporting it if they did not cheat but knew of it.

The Code did not prevent the 1950-51 West Point football team scandal, as most of the squad (then the top ranked football team in the country) was found to be shaving points for gamblers. The Code was in place back then.

The Air Force Academy instituted an Honor oath in 1984.
"We will not lie, steal or cheat, nor tolerate among us anyone who does. Furthermore, I resolve to do my duty and to live honorably, so help me God."- Honor Code Handbook​
After cheating scandals hit the Academy 1967, 1972, and 1984, the recitation of an oath as a group did not stop the 2004 and 2007 cheating scandals. It did sure as [Mark May] did not stop the sexual harassment scandal of 2003, or prevent cadets from attacking fellow future officers or lying about it to protect themselves, or others, or the academy for that matter.

The WSJ got it wrong, IMO. Institutional Codes mean [Mark May]. People have to decide to do the right thing or to act in a dishonorable way. People follow a Code or they do not. Whether they go to Miami or one of the service academies, and whether they have an official "Code" to display in a rotunda somewhere is of little or no importance.

People have to make a decision to act with integrity, or to chose not to do so. And if weak willed people are influenced by fellow students, it is people who fail them, not codes.

Edit: Once again, Jeff brings us an interesting and timely on-point article to ponder. I'm not trying to argue with the messenger.
 
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