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jlb1705;635696; said:
They should let that kid (and anyone else who was actually innocent) transfer out without having to sit out a year.
Agreed completely. Tha U has embarrassed itself numerous times in their "run", but this seems to be the straw that broke the camels proverbial back. That program needs to be torn down and rebuilt from the ground up with new coaches, players, the whole lot. The only recruits they'll be able to attract now are the type of people who were actually cheering that traveshamockery on from the stands.
 
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Donna Shalala is fortunate that Willie Williams wasn't part of that on-field fiasco, since she wrote a letter vouching for him during his controversial recruitment.

If he had been out there swinging away, she'd be getting a lot more heat personally.
 
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I also love all the fans on their boards begging Butch Davis to come back and "save" their program. Do they actually think he'd want to come back with this mess. They were in bad shape the first time he came in, I doubt he wants to "start over" again.
 
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Cancel our series with them. They don't deserve our money. They will get paid for coming to the shoe and they will get money when we travel down there to see our boys play. That program is a disgrace and I would hate to see our guys have to deal with the thugs Miami puts on the field. I know that we would never get dragged into a mele like that but they would still have to deal with all of Miami's thuggery. Cheap shots, late hits, taunting etc. Playing them in a NC game is one thing, but they don't deserve the honor of playing in the shoe.

Micheal Irvin is commenting on SC now. He says he doesn't blame the players because he would have done the same thing when he was 19. He does, however, blame Larry Coker. WHATEVER
 
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Penalties increase from brawl



Tuesday, October 17, 2006
From staff and wire reports
Of all the disturbing images from the sideline-clearing brawl between Miami and Florida International, swift and stern punishment was handed out Monday for the three that stood out the most:
Miami's Anthony Reddick wielding his helmet as a weapon and smashing it into an FIU player. His one-game suspension was increased to an indefinite one.
FIU's Chris Smith wrestling Miami holder Matt Perrelli down and appearing to punch him in the chin. Smith was dismissed.
Marshall McDuffie Jr., Smith's Golden Panthers teammate, kicking Perrelli in the head. McDuffie also was thrown off the team.
FIU's new sanctions also included 16 other players - each was originally handed a one-game suspension. Now they've been given an indefinite break from the game.
The two dismissed players will remain on scholarship at FIU.
Officials from Miami, FIU and the Atlantic Coast and Sun Belt conferences issued 31 one-game suspensions - to 13 Hurricanes and 18 Golden Panthers - late Sunday, while both schools warned further punishment was possible.
And Monday's fallout wasn't limited to on-field actions, either.
Former Miami player Lamar Thomas lost his TV analyst job with Comcast Sports SouthEast over comments he made during the brawl.
Oklahoma player arrested:
Linebacker Rufus Alexander, Oklahoma's leading tackler, was arrested after a confrontation with police. Alexander said he was trying to stop a fight early Sunday. He was charged with disturbing the peace and interfering with official process - both misdemeanors - and was released after posting bail.
Albany players charged:
Two freshman football players for Albany, N.Y., were accused of raping a female student in a dorm. Lorenzo Ashbourne of Smyrna, Ga., and Julius Harris of Riviera Beach, Fla., both 18 years old, were arrested Monday in connection with the attack early Sunday, and arraigned on a felony charge of first-degree rape, according to university police.
 
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They're out of control, mean, rotten... they're COKER'S CANES
Bob Young
The Arizona Republic
Oct. 17, 2006 12:00 AM Hey, wasn't it just a few years ago when Miami was here to play Ohio State in the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl, and we were hearing about how the Hurricanes had calmed down so much they were nothing more than a cool tropical breeze?

Good gosh, that Miami team even was lauded for having a high graduation rate.

It seemed the Hurricanes finally were trying to rise above a renegade reputation that dated to another Fiesta Bowl 20 years ago.

That's when unbeaten Miami and Penn State, ranked No. 1 and No. 2, met in the first national championship game staged in the Fiesta.

Miami arrived at Sky Harbor wearing military combat fatigues. Later in the week they walked out of a steak fry at Rawhide, claiming to be insulted by something said by Penn State's punter in a skit.

Later, it was reported that the Hurricanes - who were in their fatigues again that night - had planned to march out all along.

Miami's president, Edward "Tad" Foote,called their behavior an "embarrassment."

The late Jerome Brown, who led Miami's walkout at the steak fry, later told reporters, "Ask Tad Foote what Yale's record is. They wear suits and tuxedos to every game, and they end up 0-10. That sure brings the school a lot of money."

You might say the Hurricanes have come full circle, which is sort of what hurricanes do.

Another Miami president is apologizing for an embarrassment, this time the team's involvement in a bench-clearing melee against Florida International.

This was no normal football fight. It was brutal. One Miami player, safety Anthony Reddick, swung his helmet at the head of an FIU player. Another, Brandon Meriweather, kicked and stomped on a player who was on the ground. Still another player in the fracas reportedly swung with a crutch.

It's one thing to protect teammates. It's another to commit aggravated assault.

Even the team's broadcast analyst, Lamar Thomas, cheered on the brawl from the booth, telling listeners he wanted to take an elevator down to the field and get into it himself. Of course, he didn't - because there were other men in the fight. This is the same guy who twice was jailed for allegedly knocking around his fianc�e, once when she was pregnant and the second time when their child was present to see it.

Nice guy. Fine representative of the university, too.

Comcast Sports SouthEast, a regional cable network that hired Thomas before the season, fired him Monday.

Anyway, the brawl is just the latest in a disturbing pattern involving the Hurricanes under coach Larry Coker, a nice enough fellow who apparently lost all control of his program sometime after that last visit to Tempe.

Miami was involved in a fight with Louisiana State in a tunnel after last season's Peach Bowl.

And earlier this season, Miami players stomped on the Cardinals logo before a game at Louisville.

Oh, yeah. They lost both of those games.

Initially, the players involved - 13 from Miami and 18 from Florida International - were given a one-game suspension. Later, Reddick's suspension was deemed "indefinite," which should not be confused with "permanent," which is what the damage could have been from his cowardly attack.

In contrast, Florida International extended the suspensions of 16 of their 18 players involved to "indefinite" and kicked the other two off the team altogether.

But, hey, Miami officials promised that their players would be assigned to community service projects during their suspension.

Great, maybe they can pick up trash along roadways while wearing those prison-issue jumpsuits, which evidently come in orange for a reason.
 
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The melee in Miami
Schools extend suspensions of some players, dismiss others

Tuesday, October 17, 2006

By Tim Reynolds ASSOCIATED PRESS

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Chris Smith of Florida International punches Matt Perrelli of Miami. Smith was one of two FIU players dismissed from the team.
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JOHN L . WHITE SOUTH FLORIDA SUN - SENTINEL PHOTOS Bruce Johnson, right, and Brian Monroe, on ground, were two of 13 Miami players suspended for their actions during a brawl with Florida International.
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MIAMI ? Of all the disturbing images from the sideline-clearing brawl between the University of Miami and Florida International, swift and stern punishment was handed out yesterday for the three that stood out the most:

? Miami?s Anthony Reddick wielding his helmet as a weapon and smashing it into a Florida International player. His one-game suspension was increased to an indefinite one.

? Florida International?s Chris Smith wrestling Miami holder Matt Perrelli down and appearing to punch him in the chin. Smith was dismissed from the team.

? Marshall McDuffie Jr., Smith?s teammate, then kicking Perrelli in the head. McDuffie was also thrown off the team.
Florida International?s new sanctions also included 16 other players ? each was originally handed a one-game suspension. Now they?re indefinite.
"This is certainly embarrassing. It?s disgraceful. It?s amazing. I?ve run out of words," Florida International coach Don Strock said. "There?s no place for it in college football or football period. This is way overboard. I apologize to all the fans of college football."
The two dismissed players will remain on scholarship at Florida International.
Officials from Miami, Florida International and the Atlantic Coast and Sun Belt conferences issued 31 one-game suspensions ? to 13 Hurricanes and 18 Golden Panthers ? late Sunday, and both schools warned that further punishment was possible.
Miami athletic director Paul Dee and ACC commissioner John Swofford decided yesterday that Reddick ? who charged across the field within the first 30 seconds of the fight starting and swung his helmet wildly at Florida International players, striking at least one ? merited more than the onegame suspension.
Florida International said its suspended players would have to complete 10 hours of anger management counseling and 50 hours of community service, plus would be on athletic probation for the remainder of the year.
"This is something that?s not going to be tolerated," Florida International athletic director Pete Garcia said. "We?ve got to use this as an example to the young kids in south Florida and all over. They need to know that yes, football is very competitive. Our society is very competitive. But we?ve got to make sure that we teach the youth in south Florida what?s acceptable behavior and what?s not."
Smith and McDuffie both took shots at Perrelli shortly after the fight began with nine minutes left in the third quarter Saturday night.
"For us," Garcia said, "one incident is one incident too many."
Miami said it would order its suspended players to complete community service, as well.
Dee added that the university?s athletic department "re-emphasized" the importance of sportsmanship to coach Larry Coker and members of his staff. The brawl was the third on-field incident in Miami?s past seven games; the Hurricanes also fought with Louisiana State after losing last season?s Peach Bowl and trampled Louisville?s midfield Cardinals logo before playing there last month, an act viewed as taunting. "The coaches will be held accountable for any violation of this principle," Dee said.
 
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Don?t overreact: Brawl was stupidity, and nothing more
Tuesday, October 17, 2006



MIAMI ? The biggest shock about that melee at the Orange Bowl on Saturday night was that it took until the middle of the third quarter to get going. I would have thought the over/ under might have been the pregame coin flip, and even that was assuming mutual restraint. Maybe we should be thankful the team buses didn?t start racing on the way to the stadium, trading paint and road-raging through traffic in a hail of bullets.
All of the elements were there for an evening of good oldfashioned footbrawl as the University of Miami and Florida International met for the first time.
You had the natural testosterone overload that can make 20-year-old males behave remarkably stupidly where sports, pride or women are involved. You had the combined angst of each team?s disappointing season as an aggravating factor. You also had the backdrop of neighborhood rivalries between sudden adversaries who grew up together. Then, for dessert, you had the cocktail of frustration and resentment and jealousy.
I wouldn?t overreact and declare that Miami and Florida International should never meet again in football based on one dumb, embarrassing brawl. It was "disgraceful," sure, just as Miami coach Larry Coker said it was. And it merited every one of the administrative apologies flying sincerely yet perfunctorily Sunday across the nine miles separating the two campuses.
It was what it was: a rupture of football machismo that went on long enough to become an instant Youtube sensation and feed the ESPN SportsCenter machine for a little while. For Miami, it invites every negative preconceived notion about a football program run amok. That perception is unfortunate reality. For Florida International, well, it gets the little guys on SportsCenter, albeit for the wrong reasons.
Don?t take this as intending to excuse in any way the boorish, infantile behavior that led to 13 players (eight from Florida International) being ejected from Miami?s 35-0 victory and a total of 31 players (18 from Florida International) being suspended. The five-minute disruption made you cringe.
The brawl, however, should not indict anyone but those who participated in it. If anything, Coker deserves credit, not condemnation, for reacting swiftly against the perpetrators. Some see him as a coach losing control of his program. I suggest he?s a man doing all he can to see that he doesn?t.
Florida International was just as resolute in identifying and disciplining the main culprits in the brawl.
It seemed to me Miami?s James Bryant tipped the first domino in pointing at and bowing to the Florida International sideline after the touchdown that made it 14-0. But Florida International, apparently mouthy to that point, took it from there.
FIU players, now 0-7, many of them passed over by Miami and other bigger schools during recruiting, can be forgiven their jealousy, if not the extrapolating of it, to make them think fisticuffs were OK.
And don?t give up on the future of a Miami-Florida International football series.
The hopeful promise of a good, long, natural rivalry should set the policy on that, not the actions of a few who chose the first meeting as their stage to play buffoons.
You?ve got to be believe Saturday night was an aberration.
That, or be very depressed. Greg Cote writes for The Miami Herald
 
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"The coaches will be held accountable for any violation of this principle," Dee said.
Thus setting up the raison d'etre for Coker's dismissal, as if any other reason where needed.
For imagine, from here on in Da U will have to hold their tongues, their feet, their fists, their helmets all while enduring jibes from the opposition - one day, and I'd predict within this season, that dam will, once more, break.
 
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