Matt Barnes (DC Memphis Tigers)

[Onebuckfan]

He was given that credit by fans who are familiar with him and not as familiar with Matt Barnes. Barnes leads the DB drills. Barnes is the main speaker in DB meetings. Maybe it has changed since he’s been calling the defense, but throughout the offseason…Barnes was the guy in charge of DBs. So again, how would Kerry get credit other than recruiting him? I don’t have an issue with Co-DC’s, so I’m not exactly sure what Hafley and Mattison have to do with it unless you’re trying to point out that someone other than Kerry can get great DB play. Then I’d understand. I have a problem with making Kerry the Co-DC. He’s shown that he’s not OSU DC material. Also, why have two guys that specialize in secondary coaching as Co-DC? Why not a front 7 guy and a secondary guy? Like Hafley and Mattison.

You’re speaking of Kerry from a place of emotion. Not logic. Nobody cares about the impassioned speech if he can’t do his job. There was an article from Letterman Row just a couple of days ago that spoke to Barnes’ recruiting chops. And you don’t keep a coach just to reel in one specific player.

Day will decide. with Urban totally out of the facility I wouldn’t be surprised if Combs was out.

 

[ScriptOhio]

If he keeps it. Dude deserves all the credit in the world. Wonder what they'd do with coombs in that situation.. Offer him a bump down DBs coach? Make him a Co-DC when everyone knows he's just coaching DBs... Tell him to hit the road?

If he keeps it up, he deserves a pay raise.....

Ohio State football’s assistant coaching salary pool will be about $7.63 million next season, according to copies of contracts obtained by The Dispatch through a public-records request.
The total represents a slight decrease from last season in which the base salary pool was just shy of $8 million before the enactment of voluntary 5% pay reductions.

Ohio State football’s assistant coaching salary

NAME (current job): 2021 BASE SALARY
Kevin Wilson (Offensive Coordinator/Tight Ends Coach): $1,400,000
Corey Dennis (Quarterbacks Coach): $300,000
Tony Alford (Assistant Head Coach for Offense/Running Backs Coach): $618,000
Brian Hartline (Wide Receivers Coach): $600,000
Greg Studrawa (Offensive Line Coach): $700,000
Kerry Coombs (Defensive Coordinator): $1,400,000
Larry Johnson (Associate Head Coach/Defensive Line Coach): $1,133,000
Al Washington (Linebackers Coach): $600,000
Matt Barnes (Secondary Coach): $600,000
Parker Fleming (Special Teams Coordinator): $300,000

Just sayin': It still depends on how this year pans put defensively. If all goes well this year (i.e. the defense continues to improve), for 2022 I could see making Coombs Co-Defensive Coordinator/Cornerback coach and making Barnes Co-Defensive Coordinator/Safety coach; and paying them both $1M (which is exactly what their combined salaries are this year). Hartline definitely deserves a raise to 2022.

 

[pnuts34]

He was given that credit by fans who are familiar with him and not as familiar with Matt Barnes. Barnes leads the DB drills. Barnes is the main speaker in DB meetings. Maybe it has changed since he’s been calling the defense, but throughout the offseason…Barnes was the guy in charge of DBs. So again, how would Kerry get credit other than recruiting him? I don’t have an issue with Co-DC’s, so I’m not exactly sure what Hafley and Mattison have to do with it unless you’re trying to point out that someone other than Kerry can get great DB play. Then I’d understand. I have a problem with making Kerry the Co-DC. He’s shown that he’s not OSU DC material. Also, why have two guys that specialize in secondary coaching as Co-DC? Why not a front 7 guy and a secondary guy? Like Hafley and Mattison.

You’re speaking of Kerry from a place of emotion. Not logic. Nobody cares about the impassioned speech if he can’t do his job. There was an article from Letterman Row just a couple of days ago that spoke to Barnes’ recruiting chops. And you don’t keep a coach just to reel in one specific player.

I hope this isn't coming off as attacking, because I'm not intending on that. And I'm completely coming from a place of logic. We have a stellar coach for the DL and a good coach for the LBs, like someone has mentioned, Coombs can coach CBs and Barnes S. But if you're comparing recruiting chops. Barnes isn't close to Coombs(the top 2 '22 commits at CB were recruited by Coombs). And it's not just about 1 kid, as he's created a ton of relationships
And if you talk about development Barnes doesn't compare either. If you watch games on Sunday you see a number of teams with former OSU DBs coached by Coombs. I'm just saying that let Barnes focus on gameplan/scheme. And Coombs ' speeches definitely aid in the defense and that's very logical when these guys are going into a proverbial war. No one was saying he wasn't doing his job when he was putting DBs in the 1st round and throughout the draft and competing at Elite levels. But the guys isn't an Xs and Os coach, but he can keep a Co DC title with Barnes. But if Coombs chooses to retire then this is all moot.
I'm just saying both coaches can be a positive together, just like they've been the past few games. I just want this defense to play up to the talent that they have on the roster.

 

[buchtelgrad04]

I hope this isn't coming off as attacking, because I'm not intending on that. And I'm completely coming from a place of logic. We have a stellar coach for the DL and a good coach for the LBs, like someone has mentioned, Coombs can coach CBs and Barnes S. But if you're comparing recruiting chops. Barnes isn't close to Coombs. And it's not just about 1 kid, as he's created a ton of relationships
And if you talk about development Barnes doesn't compare either. If you watch games on Sunday you see a number of teams with former OSU DBs coached by Coombs. I'm just saying that let Barnes focus on gameplan/scheme. And Coombs ' speeches definitely aid in the defense and that's very logical when these guys are going into a proverbial war. No one was saying he wasn't doing his job when he was putting DBs in the 1st round and throughout the draft and competing at Elite levels. But the guys isn't an Xs and Os coach, but he can keep a Co DC title with Barnes. But if Coombs chooses to retire then this is all moot.
I'm just saying both coaches can be a positive together, just like they've been the past few games. I just want this defense to play up to the talent that they have on the roster.

I don’t take it as attacking at all. Just a simple discussion of our opinions.

I think your stance is one of emotion, because of all the great things Coombs has contributed to OSU. I’m of the opinion that, while he is a good DB coach and a good recruiter, we can find someone who has both of those qualities while also being a strong X’s and O’s guy. That makes the coaching staff better. If you’re giving someone a Co-DC title, they better be able to contribute to gameplan/scheme. Especially when you have a head coach that has explicitly stated that he would like to be hands off with the defense during the week. Also, Barnes is 35. Of course he won’t have the resume that Coombs has up to this point. But if the last two years are any indication, he’s been outperforming Kerry.

I don’t think it’s much of a coincidence that the offense struggled against Tulsa the same week that Day was in the media saying he had to devote his time to the defense and he didn’t want to.

 

[ScriptOhio]

“I have yet to, almost 15 years in coaching, I don’t have enough ego to say ‘Well, this is mine,’” Barnes said during a Tuesday morning interview session at the Rose Bowl. “I steal from everybody that I think does a good job, and (Knowles has) done an exceptional job. I love Ryan Day, I love Ohio State, I love Columbus, Ohio, I love our players, so I’d certainly love an opportunity to remain here.”

Barnes, whose contract with Ohio State is expiring after this season, is also the Buckeyes’ secondary coach after being promoted into that role last offseason. It’s certainly plausible that Barnes could remain in that role with Knowles calling the defense, and he says he – along with the rest of Ohio State’s current defensive coaches – has had the opportunity to meet with Knowles individually, though he said their brief conversation did not proceed to the point of discussing Barnes’ potential role on next year’s staff.

“We had a very brief meeting,” Barnes said. “I could tell right away he’s an exceptionally talented and intelligent person, seems like a great guy. The nature of our conversation did not go that long. He had a bunch of meetings, and I’m running to try to get practice organized and things like that, so I have not really had those conversations.”
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That said, Barnes plans on being back at Ohio State in 2022 if he’s afforded the opportunity to return. Having been with the Buckeyes since 2019, Barnes is grateful for the three years he’s already had to be a part of Ohio State’s coaching staff, and he says his wife and son want to stay in Columbus, too.

“It's a wonderful place,” Barnes said. “I've enjoyed every moment that I've been here. I can't imagine there are many head coaches to work for better than Ryan Day, and Columbus, Ohio is an awesome place. It's a great place. My wife and I love it here. Henry loves it here. That's what I can tell you.”

 

[Jaxbuck]

“It's a wonderful place,” Barnes said. “I've enjoyed every moment that I've been here. I can't imagine there are many head coaches to work for better than Ryan Day, and Columbus, Ohio is an awesome place. It's a great place. My wife and I love it here. Henry loves it here. That's what I can tell you.”

People who know they are at risk of getting fired always bring the wife and kids into it. Using their names is an especially nice touch.

I hate to see any person lose their job on a personal level but business is business and paychecks have been stolen on the defensive staff for a few years now. It's Day's job to know who but at OSU you have access to the top HS talent in America and all the resources to develop them. When I see the game preview of Utah and the job their defensive staff does, I just get furious all over again. It's really an unacceptable situation. I'd be fine if they fired anyone or everyone on that side.

 

[AuTX Buckeye]

People who know they are at risk of getting fired always bring the wife and kids into it. Using their names is an especially nice touch.

I hate to see any person lose their job on a personal level but business is business and paychecks have been stolen on the defensive staff for a few years now. It's Day's job to know who but at OSU you have access to the top HS talent in America and all the resources to develop them. When I see the game preview of Utah and the job their defensive staff does, I just get furious all over again. It's really an unacceptable situation. I'd be fine if they fired anyone or everyone on that side.

Not saying it matters in any way shape or form but Whittingham was a DC for 10 years prior to HC… what you see on their D is likely what you see on our O for the most part.. the influence of the HC. Would be interesting to compare the game preview of Utah’s O staff vs OSU’s D …

just quickly..
Utah has their 10 assistants split 5/5
OSU has their 10 assistants split 5/4/1

 

[bucknut502]

People who know they are at risk of getting fired always bring the wife and kids into it. Using their names is an especially nice touch.

I hate to see any person lose their job on a personal level but business is business and paychecks have been stolen on the defensive staff for a few years now. It's Day's job to know who but at OSU you have access to the top HS talent in America and all the resources to develop them. When I see the game preview of Utah and the job their defensive staff does, I just get furious all over again. It's really an unacceptable situation. I'd be fine if they fired anyone or everyone on that side.

Employer: “ @Jaxbuck your production has slipped 15% this year. Q3 was the worst quarter we’ve had in almost a decade.”

Jax: “I don’t like how this sounds”

Employer: “well I don’t like the direction this business is headed”

Jax: “well I can certainly tell you that my wife and children love that I work here. They love my benefits, the hours, the proximity to home. I hope you keep me.”

Employer:

 

[cdiddy70]

Not saying it matters in any way shape or form but Whittingham was a DC for 10 years prior to HC… what you see on their D is likely what you see on our O for the most part.. the influence of the HC. Would be interesting to compare the game preview of Utah’s O staff vs OSU’s D …

just quickly..
Utah has their 10 assistants split 5/5
OSU has their 10 assistants split 5/4/1

And our HC earned his bones on offense.

Didn't see the video but the transcript from the Barnes interview didn't sound promising for his future employment at OSU.
On the other hand I'm not sure why they would trot him out there is he knew he was told he will be hitting the road.

 

[AuTX Buckeye]

And our HC earned his bones on offense.

Didn't see the video but the transcript from the Barnes interview didn't sound promising for his future employment at OSU.
On the other hand I'm not sure why they would trot him out there is he knew he was told he will be hitting the road.

Well I mean look at all the in home visits… anyways - did they trot Wilson out there? if so then its DC/OC stuff.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Employer: “ @Jaxbuck your production has slipped 15% this year. Q3 was the worst quarter we’ve had in almost a decade.”

Jax: “I don’t like how this sounds”

Employer: “well I don’t like the direction this business is headed”

Jax: “well I can certainly tell you that my wife and children love that I work here. They love my benefits, the hours, the proximity to home. I hope your keep me.”

Employer:

That's pretty much it.

Throw in some well placed drops of their names, updates on any life events they may be going through and such.

 

[CMic]

Well, at least he's covering all bases.

If Knowles is the decision maker:

“We had a very brief meeting,” Barnes said. “I could tell right away he’s an exceptionally talented and intelligent person, seems like a great guy. The nature of our conversation did not go that long. He had a bunch of meetings, and I’m running to try to get practice organized and things like that, so I have not really had those conversations.”

If Day is the decision maker:

“It's a wonderful place,” Barnes said. “I've enjoyed every moment that I've been here. I can't imagine there are many head coaches to work for better than Ryan Day, and Columbus, Ohio is an awesome place. It's a great place. My wife and I love it here. Henry loves it here. That's what I can tell you.”

 

[ScriptOhio]

Yeah, it will be interesting to see who is the "odd man coach out". Will it be Coombs, Barnes, or maybe Fleming?

However, according to 11W: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...gton-and-matt-barnes-receive-salary-increases

Based on the article (a few posts above), it sounds like Barnes is worried. For Coombs to stay he'd have to take a very large pay cut and position downgrade which he may be willing to do. The contracts for Washington, Alford, and Fleming go through 2022. Possible they could move Fleming to an analyst position at his current contract salary.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Well, at least he's covering all bases.

If Knowles is the decision maker:



If Day is the decision maker:

"Not only are you a handsome man, I can tell you are incredibly intelligent....."

 

[sammyjenkis]

Possible they could move Fleming to an analyst position at his current contract salary

Is there any reason Ohio State can't sign a dozen coaches on as analysts like Bama, other than being cheap?