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Lou Holtz (Official Thread)

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matcar said:
I don't remember him being offered and distinctly remember wishing he would have been. Me and Pops used to talk about that a lot.
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On Dec. 30, 1978, the morning after Woody Hayes slugged Clemson's Charlie Bauman in the Gator Bowl, Ohio State had to begin a rare search for a new head coach.

Hayes had been the only coach the school had known for the better part of three decades, leaving the search committee with a difficult task in finding a replacement.

Lou Holtz, who grew up in Ohio and attended Kent State, often said he didn't want to be the guy who followed Hayes. He wanted to be the guy who followed the guy who followed the Ohio State legend.

Holtz was at Arkansas at the time and would have appeared to be a logical candidate. Instead, Ohio State turned to a former Hayes assistant and Ohio State graduate in Earle Bruce.

At the time, Bruce was best known around Ohio for his work on the high school level, both at Sandusky and Massillon.

"A lot of people wanted Holtz," Ohio State historian Jack Park said. "A lot of people said, 'Earle who?' Unless you really followed the program or had really been a fan, you may not have known him."

http://www.news-herald.com/general-news/20081104/ohio-state-football-my-name-is-earle

FWIW, I believe that

1) Holtz was making the statement "he didn't want to be the guy who followed Woody, but he'd be the guy who followed the guy who followed Woody" way before Woody was fired.

2) Holtz was never officially offered the job. Now if some "behind the scenes" inquiry was made, I really can't say.

3) It's no secret that Holtz's dream job was and has always been Notre Dame.
 
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LovelandBuckeye said:
I thought he did it on purpose.
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Sadly no. It was unintentional. :sniff:

matcar said:
Yeah ok. He's a good guy, whether you like him or not. Maybe he likes his job...we are all for sale if we are employed by another.
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I never said he wasn't a good guy, and it has nothing to do with whether or not I like him. My personal feelings are irrelevant...as are yours.

He's a whore because he is willing to compromise his integrity for money. In my line of work that tends to get one sent to prison.
 
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Muck said:
Sadly no. It was unintentional.



I never said he wasn't a good guy, and it has nothing to do with whether or not I like him. My personal feelings are irrelevant...as are yours.

He's a whore because he is willing to compromise his integrity for money. The people in my line of work who do that tend to end up in prison.
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He hasn't compromised anything. But carry on, I'm done with it. He's a good man regardless of Internet spew.
 
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LovelandBuckeye said:
Right there ^^^^^^^^^^

I will take that in two quarters, four dimes, a nickel, and five pennies please.
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Regarding the myth that Lou Holtz turned down the head coaching job at tOSU:

Hugh Hindman, the AD who fired Woody and hired Earle, was my uncle. He was also on the coaching staff while both Earle and Lou were there. I can tell you that Earle was his first choice from the beginning. I can't tell you, because I don't know, what he thought of Lou as a head coach prospect at that time.
 
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Muck said:
He's a whore because he is willing to compromise his integrity for money. In my line of work that tends to get one sent to prison.
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Why do you think he is compromising his integrity? Just from being associated with ESPN?

If I were to name my all-time favorite broadcaster that is not currently on ESPN (whoever the hell that is), I would be pumped if I found out he was now joining ESPN and might possibly balance some of the spinning that goes on there. The only way I see that person's integrity being compromised is if he changes his comments as a result of being on ESPN, which in my IMO, Lou is definitely not doing that. If anything, it's like he's an enemy of ESPN that has somehow wormed his way inside the evil empire to fight back.
 
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BigJim said:
Why do you think he is compromising his integrity? Just from being associated with ESPN?
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Read the past few pages of the thread. There people yammering about how Lou doesn't want to be a clown on TV He just wants to talk football and hates being in the position he is.

One thing I learned long ago is to judge people by their actions, not their words.

If Lou really didn't want to be a clown prince dancing with Mark May....then he wouldn't be.
If Lou truly just wanted to talk football...then he would have found a different venue where he could.

Either the claims regarding what he 'really' wants are empty air OR he has compromised his principals for a few extra dollars.

The fact that he allows himself to be trotted out as part of lame comedy skits is all that matters. Everything else is shit.

Of course, that is countered by pronouncements about his moral character based upon seeing him at a public speaking engagement.
 
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