Look Who's Transferring Now (The Portal)

[Steve19]

Kind of like they're adults working a job...
In everyday life, adults have the opportunity to leave and switch companies, or start their own company's. And companies do what they can to keep their employees, especially their best ones. If an employee feels unwanted or sees their career going nowhere, then they have the option to leave. Not sure why it's so crazy that we treat 18-22yos like adults.

Alternatively, when high school players come to a program like Ohio State, and the University invests heavily in facilities and personnel to develop their scholastic, physical, and athletic development, then there is something other than the simple everyday life at work that most people will experience it. In the world of work, individuals are hired for positions that have responsibilities in which they can immediately contribute in meaningful ways to the organization's performance and results. Most high school players entering major university programs do not contribute much for the first two years as they develop. Consequently, the investment in them and what they have received is far greater than it would be in normal working life and this is where the dilemma arises in my mind.

 

[Thump]

This is really sucking the enjoyment out of college football for me.

Not the fact that players have choice but that
the choice can change yearly.

Free agency on steroids.

 

[Tomateaux Quinoa Gumbeaux]

This is really sucking the enjoyment out of college football for me.

Not the fact that players have choice but that
the choice can change yearly.

Free agency on steroids.

Hopefully it balances out.

similar with how Nil is being employed.

I am all for players being paid, and even paid well, but a high school cb allegedly going to places like college station because they got a $2m “nil deal” is ridiculous.

Portal + NIL are good, but currently are being abused by some (mostly agents and hanger ons).

 

[pnuts34]

I'm in agreement with everyone who's finding it hard to root for CFB, and is getting frustrated with NIL and the Portal. The big problem is, who the heck is going to govern all of this? We've essentially said that the NCAA is worthless, but if that's the case, then who steps in to regulate? Because even if you're a fan of a team like UGA, Bama, aTm, USC, or any other team doling out large sums of cash, it doesn't always equate to wins and championships, or even your players staying. Big recruiting wins for 5stars, no longer is a big victory, as said kid can leave after the season. Something needs to be done, and done pretty soon, because if we thought this year was bad, it can only get worse if tampering with signed players also becomes a regular occurrence(i.e. Tenn & Hayden)

 

[Jaxbuck]

I'm in agreement with everyone who's finding it hard to root for CFB, and is getting frustrated with NIL and the Portal. The big problem is, who the heck is going to govern all of this? We've essentially said that the NCAA is worthless, but if that's the case, then who steps in to regulate? Because even if you're a fan of a team like UGA, Bama, aTm, USC, or any other team doling out large sums of cash, it doesn't always equate to wins and championships, or even your players staying. Big recruiting wins for 5stars, no longer is a big victory, as said kid can leave after the season. Something needs to be done, and done pretty soon, because if we thought this year was bad, it can only get worse if tampering with signed players also becomes a regular occurrence(i.e. Tenn & Hayden)

The nature of the problem isn't kids getting NIL nor is it the transfer portal. They are symptoms. The problem is that you have a professional entertainment model and no enforceable rules around acquisition of talent.

The schools (still acting as the owners of a pro sports team mind you) can make a contract with a player as an individual that has restrictive covenants to keep them from leaving (mostly to combat tampering on the supply side) or they can collectively bargain with a union. Private businesses in America go the former route. The 4 major pro sports leagues go the latter.

Schools are going to have to pick one and then start doing it. Sitting back and doing what they have always done (be in the University business, not the entertainment business) is what's wrong right now (imo). This is all new and would take some quick thinking and bold action with a lot of uncertainty involved. The schools are run by career bureaucrats. Something has to give here.

 

[buckeyemania11]

A 5* from their #1 rated 2022 class

 

[NFBuck]

This is really sucking the enjoyment out of college football for me.

Not the fact that players have choice but that
the choice can change yearly.

Free agency on steroids.

Same here. I watched less college football this year than ever before. Honestly, outside of Buckeye games (and I missed a couple of those, too), I really didn't watch any. Used to be my favorite sport by far, just isn't anymore. All of the things that made CFB charming/appealing are going away.

 

[Nutriaitch]

The nature of the problem isn't kids getting NIL nor is it the transfer portal.

the portal itself is a good thing. the whole penalty transfer is a problem though.

the portal is just a way for a kid to get some info on his options.
without that, there really wasn't a way for some of these guys to know if there was a better situation out there.

the problem is allowing anyone and everyone to bounce in and out and transfer without a penalty.

Same here. I watched less college football this year than ever before. Honestly, outside of Buckeye games (and I missed a couple of those, too), I really didn't watch any. Used to be my favorite sport by far, just isn't anymore. All of the things that made CFB charming/appealing are going away.

yeah, this is the least I've watched too.

 

[Jaxbuck]

the portal itself is a good thing. the whole penalty transfer is a problem though.

the portal is just a way for a kid to get some info on his options.
without that, there really wasn't a way for some of these guys to know if there was a better situation out there.

the problem is allowing anyone and everyone to bounce in and out and transfer without a penalty.

The problem lies with whatever is making the kid even consider transferring.

The portal is juts a "how".

 

[Tomateaux Quinoa Gumbeaux]

Same here. I watched less college football this year than ever before. Honestly, outside of Buckeye games (and I missed a couple of those, too), I really didn't watch any. Used to be my favorite sport by far, just isn't anymore. All of the things that made CFB charming/appealing are going away.

I still watched a good amount. But it used to feel like every week was “must watch” TV. That feeling has diminished a lot for me. Certain weeks when I couldn’t watch were no big deal. In the past, I’d be trying to find a place to watch or stream onto my phone. This year I just checked the scores at the end of the night. The fact that Bama was even considered as a playoff team with 2 losses suggests to me how dispensable the sport has become.

(and yes I know LSU won it all with 2 losses in 2007, but that was an anomaly of a season. This year, as with 99% of seasons, there was no reason for any 2 loss team to be considered a playoff team imo).

 

[Onebuckfan]

The NFL work rules are collectively bargained. Union members work under a different system. Unions sprang up where employers held the power and got a little freedom. College football is going to keep evolving it’s not going backward. The academic community lost control of CFP. I guess Universities could bail on CFP but there is still to many $$$ they just have to share it not control it.

 

[Nutriaitch]

The problem lies with whatever is making the kid even consider transferring.

The portal is juts a "how".

the "why" is almost impossible to legislate.

some do it for personal reasons (just want to be closer to home)
some may do it for family reasons (may have sick parents)
some for social reasons (Justin Fields took issue with some things at UGA)
some to better themselves (more/better opportunity elsewhere)
some because their coach got canned or took another job elsewhere
some because they found out their school had been covering up kiddie rapes in the showers for a few decades while building statues of the dude who allowed them to continue, and the fan base was more pissed about removing wins than they were about kids being fucked in the locker room afterhours by one of their assistant coaches

 

[Jaxbuck]

the "why" is almost impossible to legislate.

some do it for personal reasons (just want to be closer to home)
some may do it for family reasons (may have sick parents)
some for social reasons (Justin Fields took issue with some things at UGA)
some to better themselves (more/better opportunity elsewhere)
some because their coach got canned or took another job elsewhere
some because they found out their school had been covering up kiddie rapes in the showers for a few decades while building statues of the dude who allowed them to continue, and the fan base was more pissed about removing wins than they were about kids being fucked in the locker room afterhours by one of their assistant coaches

I wasn't saying legislate the why. I am saying teams/coaches/schools need to solve it internally if they want kids to stay.

That last one is a situation that there is no known solution for so we might as well nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

 

[Nutriaitch]

I am saying teams/coaches/schools need to solve it internally if they want kids to stay.

that's why i say go back to the penalty of sitting a year to eliminate guys bolting just because they're not starting.
and of course allow some sort of appeal to be immediately eligible depending on your specific situation.

 

[buckeyemania11]

This guy is moving on to his 3rd school in 3 years (Clemson to Ga Tech to ?)

Also listed as a sophomore but was a member of the 2019 recruiting class. That COVID year really making things wild out here.