Lebron James (Los Angeles Lakers)

[WolverineMike]

Yes.

Still haven't responded to my point about Wade. Yeah, Kobe stayed in LA because they brought it Pau. But you really are taking crazy pills if you think DWades just grow on fucking trees.

Honestly, as a fan of the NBA in general, I feel cheated. I have to watch the two best players in the game win title-after-title for the foreseeable future... when I'd much rather watch them play each other. Lebron is still a coward, will always be one - and that's not saying anything about his skill, because he's the most athletically gifted person I've ever been fortunate enough to watch on television. But he's just so utterly unlikeable that its a shame. A... damn... shame.

you shouldn't feel cheated.........they haven't won shit yet. For all we know, they'll lose the next three games and never win a title. Nothing is a foregone conclusion right now.

 

[buckeyesin07]

he stayed because he bitched enough and got another elite player. Not sure what you're looking for.

Pau's not elite. That aside, if LBJ wanted another good player, all he had to do was commit to Cleveland, because he knew full well that no good FA would commit to playing there if LBJ was just going to bolt from town the first chance he got. Guess what happened? LBJ wouldn't commit. Self-fulfilling prophecy, dude.

 

[pharaz1]

is pau not one of the top 5 player's at his position? is he not a multiple all-star? i remember after last season experts saying pau was the best power forward in the game. it's easy to say he sucks now b/c he struggled in this year's playoff for some reason. but that cannot overshadow what he has down the past three years.

also, the heat are not just going to be given these championships for the next coming years. okc will have something to say about that.

 

[OH10]

you shouldn't feel cheated.........they haven't won [Mark May] yet. For all we know, they'll lose the next three games and never win a title. Nothing is a foregone conclusion right now.

I don't even think you honestly believe that.

 

[OH10]

is pau not one of the top 5 player's at his position? is he not a multiple all-star? i remember after last season experts saying pau was the best power forward in the game. it's easy to say he sucks now b/c he struggled in this year's playoff for some reason. but that cannot overshadow what he has down the past three years.

Again, how in the [censored] do you propose that Cleveland could have pulled off a deal for someone of Pau's calibar, let alone someone of DWade's calibar, when their own superstar wouldn't commit?

also, the heat are not just going to be given these championships for the next coming years. okc will have something to say about that.

One team in the whole league... that couldn't hold multiple leads against a flawed Dallas team... that has a bi-polar point guard and a passive leader. And that has ZERO ability to attract big-time free agents. Sure.

 

[pharaz1]

Again, how in the [censored] do you propose that Cleveland could have pulled off a deal for someone of Pau's calibar, let alone someone of DWade's calibar, when their own superstar wouldn't commit?


One team in the whole league... that couldn't hold multiple leads against a flawed Dallas team... that has a bi-polar point guard and a passive leader. And that has ZERO ability to attract big-time free agents. Sure.

i said earlier their biggest mistake was not pulling the trigger on amare. it was a risk b/c he too could have left after the year. but it was worth the gamble.

durant is 22 and westbrook is 21 i believe. they have gotten considerably better every year. they don't need any freeagents b/c they know how to draft and they have all their pieces. surge and harden are also in their early 20s and getting better. you can't critique okc and forget about how young they are. that team is going to be scary.

 

[jlb1705]

i said earlier their biggest mistake was not pulling the trigger on amare. it was a risk b/c he too could have left after the year. but it was worth the gamble.

It didn't matter. Quitness didn't want to play with Amar'e. If he did, Amar'e would be in Miami right now instead of RuPaul.

 

[pharaz1]

It didn't matter. Quitness didn't want to play with Amar'e. If he did, Amar'e would be in Miami right now instead of RuPaul.

no i think they just thought rupaul fit better with their system.

on a side note, i didn't think it was possible to see an uglier human being than bosh until he got knocked in the eye. hideous.

 

[3074326]

he's only 26. nobody knows what his legacy will be. Unless you're a Cav's fan, then no matter what he does he'll always be "bitchmade." so get over it

You didn't read the part where I said something like "unless he wins multiple championships as the guy" I guess.

Cavs fans aren't the only ones saying what I said. Get the fuck over it.

 

[WolverineMike]

Pau's not elite. That aside, if LBJ wanted another good player, all he had to do was commit to Cleveland, because he knew full well that no good FA would commit to playing there if LBJ was just going to bolt from town the first chance he got. Guess what happened? LBJ wouldn't commit. Self-fulfilling prophecy, dude.

you seem hung up on the last days of him being under contract with Cleveland when he wouldn't commit. I'm talking about the 6 years before that.

The fact you think Pau isn't elite ends my discussion with you. Ridiculous.

 

[WolverineMike]

You didn't read the part where I said something like "unless he wins multiple championships as the guy" I guess.

my bad

Cavs fans aren't the only ones saying what I said. Get the fuck over it.

i'm over what fans think in general. their knowledge is generally lacking and emotion is to high for rash thinking.

 

[Flocka]

you seem hung up on the last days of him being under contract with Cleveland when he wouldn't commit. I'm talking about the 6 years before that.

The fact you think Pau isn't elite ends my discussion with you. Ridiculous.

[Johnnie Cochran]To be elite, you have to be complete.[/Johnnie Cochran]

 

[Bleed S & G]

you seem hung up on the last days of him being under contract with Cleveland when he wouldn't commit. I'm talking about the 6 years before that.

Wrong Mike. But, thats to be expected.

 

[buchtelgrad04]

you seem hung up on the last days of him being under contract with Cleveland when he wouldn't commit. I'm talking about the 6 years before that.

The fact you think Pau isn't elite ends my discussion with you. Ridiculous.

Oh, you mean like in 2006 when he conspired with D. Wade to sign a 3 year contract with an option for the 4th, to give Pat Riley time to dump the team? NBA players knew what was going on, no one was going to Cleveland.

Also, I think Pau is "elite" by today's standards, but how many legit "big men" are in the NBA today? He's not really that good.

 

[OH10]

i said earlier their biggest mistake was not pulling the trigger on amare. it was a risk b/c he too could have left after the year. but it was worth the gamble.

And I guarantee you Cleveland finds a way to make that deal IF they could have gotten Lebron and Amare to commit. Every indication is that Amare didn't want to play in Cleveland; Lebron did nothing to convince him otherwise.

In fact, in 7 years in Cleveland, Lebron did nothing to convince anybody of significance to play for the Cavs. He was the only attraction we had for free agents; but no one wants to be left in the cold.

I'm tired of arguing with the apologists. The evidence suggests strongly that Lebron, DWade and Bosh colluded a long time ago to achieve their objective. The league that should have been able to market itself off these guys competing against each other is now a boring farce.

Lebron is a p-u-s-s-y. The end.