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Lebron James (Los Angeles Lakers)

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billmac91;1731572; said:
Could have been...he's only 25. Not anymore.
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Still could be. No one knows how this is going to play out. If the Heat win multiple titles and LBJ is dropping triple doubles in the playoffs like crazy...who knows. Lebron still could be the leading scorer for the Heat. He could average double digit assists and get assloads of triple doubles. Does drawing a double team and kicking it out to Wade make him less of a basketball player?

Was Jordan less of a player because he kicked it out to John Paxson instead of shooting it himself?

History will see this based on how many titles he wins. Win 0 or 1 Title in Miami...this will be considered a bad move. He has to win multiple titles in Miami for history to view this move as success. He even said in his interview that this is about winning multiple titles. He isn't being a bitch or taking the "easy way out". Leaving his hometown and knowing that he has to win 2,3 or 4 titles is taking on a lot of pressure.
 
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Uh huh

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Exactly.
 
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WolverineMike;1731198; said:
outside of Cleveland I think he's just getting hammered for the hour long talk show. Inside of Cleveland he's a disloyal turncoat who has no loyalty to Ohio or the Cavs. I think there's a bit of a difference there.
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every Laker fan i know, and i know a LOT, is sayin 'fuck Lebron' and calling him LeBitch. it's more widespread than you think.
 
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Tlangs;1731582; said:
He isn't being a bitch or taking the "easy way out". Leaving his hometown and knowing that he has to win 2,3 or 4 titles is taking on a lot of pressure.
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Not when you have DWade and Bosh as your teammates. Try to spin it any way you want, but going to Miami and winning 2, 3 or 4 titles with perennial all-stars like DWade and Bosh (not to mention guys like Mike Miller and Haslem) is light years easier than staying in Cleveland and winning one title. The challenge would have been in staying, not going to the cushy situation he has in Miami.
 
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buckeyesin07;1731631; said:
Not when you have DWade and Bosh as your teammates. Try to spin it any way you want, but going to Miami and winning 2, 3 or 4 titles with perennial all-stars like DWade and Bosh (not to mention guys like Mike Miller and Haslem) is light years easier than staying in Cleveland and winning one title. The challenge would have been in staying, not going to the cushy situation he has in Miami.
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I don't care who your teammates are. Winning 2,3, or 4 titles is harder than winning 1. Not to mention the arguments on this thread talking about how Cleveland already had the best record the last two years and was on the cusp of winning a title and how Miami isn't that great of a situation since they will have to fill the roster out with table scraps.

I'll go out on a limb and say that Lebron probably had equal chances to win titles next year at either location. Cleveland has a new coach with a better offensive mind and Miami is rebuilding with high price free agents with no proven chemistry. Miami is definitely the better choice to try and get multiple titles down the road though.
 
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Tlangs;1731659; said:
I'll go out on a limb and say that Lebron probably had equal chances to win titles next year at either location. Cleveland has a new coach with a better offensive mind and Miami is rebuilding with high price free agents with no proven chemistry. Miami is definitely the better choice to try and get multiple titles down the road though.
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First thing you've said that I can say I begrudgingly agree with.
 
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X Buckeyes07 X;1731665; said:
Looks like he recruited Z to join him in Miami. Cleveland will never forgive him.
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Eh. Look, I love Z, but he's an ineffective player at this point. His bread and butter was always that 15-18 foot jumper and even that isn't falling much anymore. I don't think many Cavs fans expected/wanted Big Z back.
 
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