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Lane Kiffin (HC Ole/Young Miss & Twitter Troll King)

What Street Name Will Knoxville Give in Honor of Lane Kiffin's Hiring?

  • Lane Kiffin Lane

    Votes: 17 20.0%
  • Lane Kiffin Street

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Lane Kiffin Boulevard

    Votes: 2 2.4%
  • Lane Kiffin Circle

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • Lane Kiffin Avenue

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • Kiffin Lane

    Votes: 24 28.2%
  • Other

    Votes: 7 8.2%
  • I don't know, but I'd shag his wife

    Votes: 33 38.8%

  • Total voters
    85
Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1401322; said:
I think the three of you each said you think paying players to get them to commit was perfectly fine... "cool" I think you each said... in turn... as expected of the SEC fan....
Gatorubet said:
Nutriaitch said:
BigWoof31 said:

Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1401322; said:
Or...

maybe I just made that up. I forget.

Apparently not.

:biggrin:
 
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Gatorubet;1401304; said:
Again, give one example. Give any example on this thread of an SEC recruiting practice that Nutria or Woof or I said we condoned that you Big 10 fans do not.

OK, sure. See the middle part of post #117, which you have apparently chosen to ignore throughout the course of this thread so far.
 
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Southeastern Conference Code of Ethics is a nice little document to peruse. Consider these gems under Academic Integrity:

10.3.1 Coaches shall only recruit prospective student-athletes who have the necessary academic background to succeed as
students at his/her institution.
10.3.2 In determining a prospective student-athlete's initial eligibility status, institutions shall be responsible for making every
effort to assure that credentials utilized to determine eligibility are accurate and authentic.
Also, the questionable oversigning of recruits on NLOID when it apparently states in your "Code of Ethics" that this is not to be done is a headscratcher.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1401322; said:
I think the three of you each said you think paying players to get them to commit was perfectly fine... "cool" I think you each said... in turn... as expected of the SEC fan....

Or...

maybe I just made that up. I forget.

Other than that is what I'm saying, other than that...
 
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Gatorubet;1401304; said:
Again, give one example. Give any example on this thread of an SEC recruiting practice that Nutria or Woof or I said we condoned that you Big 10 fans do not.
I think you're missing the big picture view here. We don't care. We'll just go about making up whatever we want about SEC football to fit our agenda and you can't stop us!

*Neener neener*
 
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buckeyesin07;1401338; said:
OK, sure. See the middle part of post #117, which you have apparently chosen to ignore throughout the course of this thread so far.

Middle part of post #117???

You mean, the part where we also use blank spaces between words when we type?


Damn. Guilty. :(
 
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Dryden;1401371; said:
I think you're missing the big picture view here. We don't care. We'll just go about making up whatever we want about SEC football to fit our agenda and you can't stop us!

*Neener neener*

Upon further reflection, I am embarrassed to have taken up so much of your bandwidth on this....I mean, what if it crashed the site? :paranoid:
 
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"Tennstud" & "Bama Booster" :: The Memphis Flyer :: Cover Stories :: Cover Stories

Great article on Southeastern recruiting.....I've posted part of it.

Nearly everywhere he went in the fall of 1999, the scuttlebutt was that Memphis was the Southern sewer of recruiting corruption. The son of a star UT football player and a former UT baseball player himself, Ernsberger is far from naive. But he had never seen anything quite like it. The allegations about inner-city high school coaches in Memphis brokering star players for cash were eye-opening enough, but the forum for hashing them out was a story in itself: the obsessive, overwrought, occasionally over-the-top world of Internet message boards like Gridscape.com and Tiderinsider.com.
As he followed the football season, the names of two aging, fanatical Memphis boosters kept coming up. One was Alabama super-fan Young, a wealthy businessman with an erratic reputation and ties to the late legendary Alabama coach Bear Bryant. The other was Roy Adams, an equally avid Tennessee booster and a garrulous sort who had become infatuated with fan forums on the Internet. Once they had been friends and drinking buddies, but years ago they fell out and were now sworn enemies.
"They are quintessential Southern characters with probably too much money and certainly too much time on their hands," Ernsberger said in an interview. "That's really what I was interested in as much as the Albert Means recruiting saga. They proved to be every bit as colorful as I expected them to be."
Ernsberger devoted an entire chapter to Young and Adams in his book Bragging Rights: A Season Inside the SEC. His research in Memphis and his contacts with coaches in places like Knoxville and Oxford pointed him toward a second Memphis story -- the unorthodox recruiting of Means, a highly regarded lineman from Trezevant High School.
"I had heard a lot of stories," said Ernsberger. "Ole Miss treated the Albert Means situation as like, 'duh, you think this is new stuff?'"
The relationship between Means and Lynn Lang, who seemed to live large for someone on a teacher's salary, became another chapter. It ended with this cryptic message:
"Or is there, as many SEC folk suspect, something rotten in Memphis? Will we ever know the truth? As they say on The X-files, the truth is out there."
Bragging Rights was published in December, 2000. If the truth was still "out there," at least the story of Logan Young, Roy Adams, Lynn Lang, and Albert Means was in print. A serious writer had given narrative structure, perspective, details, and credibility to what had previously been rumor, gossip, and anonymous Internet chat. The ripple effect is still being felt.
Blowing the Whistle on "Slave Trading"

Milton Kirk makes only a cameo appearance in Bragging Rights and Ernsberger did not interview him. Kirk was Lang's sidekick and assistant and is the brother of Shelby County Commissioner Cleo Kirk.
Throughout Albert Means' senior year of 1999-2000, Kirk was often at Lang's side, within earshot as he made his pitch to various coaches at Arkansas, Georgia, Michigan State, Tennessee, Memphis, Ole Miss, and Alabama. He was familiar with the details, which allegedly ranged from $200,000 in cash to $50,000-$80,000 in cash along with a house and two cars. Kirk thought he was supposed to get some of the cash himself. When he didn't, he began to complain, first at parties and football gatherings, then to the NCAA in the fall of 2000.
In January 2001, a month after Ernsberger's book was published, Kirk told his story to The Commercial Appeal. In a story by reporter Gary Parrish, Kirk went public with his sensational claim that Lang had shopped Means for $200,000 and been paid to push him to Alabama.
"Parrish read my book and was interested in the subject but did it all on his own and deserves all the credit for talking to Kirk," Ernsberger said. "I did not talk to Kirk. He was in the office when I was at Trezevant but I didn't quote him. He didn't seem like a meaningful figure at the time."
Parrish's scoop drew a huge response from readers and was picked up by regional and national media. At a time when colleges were being busted by the NCAA for giving athletes plane tickets, pocket money, or sneakers, auctioning an unproven high school defensive lineman for $200,000 -- none of which apparently went to the player although some may have gone to his family -- was unprecedented.
Kirk's story, embellished with charges of "slave trading" and belated sentiment for Means' mother who Kirk said was also supposed to be paid, had been hinted at on the Internet for months before the story broke. UT booster Roy Adams, a regular Internet poster under the name "Tennstud," says at least a dozen people heard Kirk make the charge two and a half months before he went public with it. But Adams denies pushing Kirk toward the CA and told the Flyer, in fact, that he advised him to keep it quiet.
For counsel, Kirk turned to Karl Schledwitz, a lawyer turned developer with good political savvy. Schledwitz graduated from Trezevant High School and UT, where he was student government president and a friend of Phillip Fulmer. In a deposition this year, Schledwitz said he and Kirk spoke numerous times to the NCAA in 2000.
If Kirk had not gone to the newspaper, the case might have stayed with the NCAA. Federal and state prosecutors have said they started their investigation after reading Kirk's story in The Commercial Appeal.
In contrast to the cocky, powerfully built Lang, who was a three-year letterman as a defensive lineman at Alcorn State from 1990-1992, Kirk presents an aging, somewhat forlorn appearance and has been given to self-pitying statements about his financial plight and the injustice of it all. His notoriety came with a high price. Since he incriminated himself as well as Lang, Memphis City Schools officials had little choice but to fire him.
His troubles were far from over. On August 29, 2001, he and Lang were indicted on bribery and extortion charges "under color of official right" or, in other words, as public employees. Shortly thereafter Kirk pleaded guilty and was sentenced to probation and community service.
Lang held out for nearly another year, although it isn't clear exactly when he began to cooperate with prosecutors. He was first represented by A C Wharton, who was then a private attorney and Shelby County public defender and is now Shelby County mayor. Lang dropped Wharton, or vice versa, three weeks after the indictment was returned. Wharton hasn't commented on the case, but it seems likely that Lang lied to him.
On November 7, 2002, Lang appeared in court to plead guilty to racketeering and pledge his cooperation with the government. Curiously, he was represented by a public defender. The coach, who had allegedly received $150,000 in cash in 24 installments from Logan Young two years earlier, was now officially indigent.

I wonder who the coach at MSU was when they recruited Means??
 
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Gatorubet;1401375; said:
Upon further reflection, I am embarrassed to have taken up so much of your bandwidth on this....I mean, what if it crashed the site? :paranoid:
Come to think of it, the server didn't start crashing until BigWoof joined the site in Sept. Maybe the server rejects the idea that a LSU fan, Georgia fan, and Florida fan can post amicably in the same thread? Everytime you three are in the same thread, the server goes down!
 
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JCOSU86;1401391; said:
Could the MSU be actually Mississippi State and they put Michigan State by mistake?

No, I don't think so b/c I remember from the hearings, that Michigan State was the only northern school involved.

It's just funny to me, that Nick Saban happened to be the coach of MSU at that time.....
 
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